Re^5: Out of date over <> and 5.10 (reproduce)

I tried to come up with a complete test case that anybody could run, since this behavior seems to vary based on tiny things, perhaps down to unknown quirks in different environments. Perhaps this test case can be extended to cover the quirks that get discovered to the point that it demonstrates failure and success of piping / redirection in exactly the same cases on lots of different systems.

echo on

assoc .pl=perltest
perl -e"system(qq(ftype perltest=$^X \"%%1\" %%*))"
ftype perltest

mkdir pipe
cd pipe
pipe

perl -e "print 'print qq(| $_) while <>'" > pipe.pl
set pathext=.pl;.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;
pipe pipe.pl
pipe < pipe.pl
type pipe.pl | pipe

set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;
pipe pipe.pl
pipe < pipe.pl

set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;.pl;
pipe pipe.pl
pipe < pipe.pl
type pipe.pl | pipe

del pipe.pl
cd ..
rmdir pipe
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Running it myself gave me different results than BrowserUk's. First, the boring pre-amble:

C:\> echo on

C:\> assoc .pl=perltest
.pl=perltest

C:\> perl -e"system(qq(ftype perltest=$^X \"%1\" %*))"
perltest=C:\strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe "%1" %*

C:\> ftype perltest
perltest=C:\strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe "%1" %*

C:\> mkdir pipe

C:\> cd pipe

C:\pipe> pipe
'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
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That last line shows that I don't have an old pipe.exe or pipe.bat hanging around to confuse things.

C:\pipe> perl -e "print 'print qq(| $_) while <>'"  1>pipe.pl

C:\pipe> set pathext=.pl;.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;

C:\pipe> pipe pipe.pl
| print qq(| $_) while <> 
C:\pipe> pipe  0<pipe.pl

C:\pipe> type pipe.pl   | pipe
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The above shows that neither piping nor redirection works for me when I leave off .pl even when .pl is first in PATHEXT (the case where it worked for BrowserUk).

C:\pipe> set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;

C:\pipe> pipe pipe.pl
'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\pipe> pipe  0<pipe.pl
'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
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The above is the boring middle part.

C:\pipe> set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;.pl;

C:\pipe> pipe pipe.pl
| print qq(| $_) while <> 
C:\pipe> pipe  0<pipe.pl

C:\pipe> type pipe.pl   | pipe
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The above shows that redirection and piping also fails for me when .pl at the last item in PATHEXT (the case where it also failed for BrowserUk (update:) based on my prior reading of his node but that doesn't appear to have failed for him in my latest reading of his node).

C:\pipe> del pipe.pl

C:\pipe> cd ..

C:\> rmdir pipe

C:\>
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That last chunk is the boring end.

In the process of trying to get ftype / assoc to actually work, I found a lot of quirks that are possible in the Classes/.pl and Classes/testperl Registry keys. I suspect that there is something here that is important. To be clear, when I ran this test case, I had previously deleted the Class/.pl and Class/perltest Registry keys. I didn't include those steps in the test case as I figured some might find such a drastic step impolite and also because I suspect such a step would mask some of the existing quirks that cause different behavior for different people.

Somebody should probably add code to the test case that saves the keys, deletes them, and then restores them at the end. Unfortunately, the Windows Registry doesn't appear to support "rename key".

- tye

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Re^6: Out of date over <> and 5.10 (reproduce) by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Sep 08, 2010 at 18:27 UTC
Here's what I get. Everything works. (At least how I would expect it to.) c:\test>pipetest c:\test>echo on c:\test>assoc .pl=perltest .pl=perltest c:\test>perl -e"system(qq(ftype perltest=$^X \"%1\" %))" perltest=C:\Perl64\bin\perl.exe "%1" % c:\test>ftype perltest perltest=C:\Perl64\bin\perl.exe "%1" %* c:\test>mkdir pipe c:\test>cd pipe c:\test\pipe>pipe 'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. c:\test\pipe>perl -e "print 'print qq(\| $_) while <>'" 1>pipe.pl c:\test\pipe>set pathext=.pl;.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd; c:\test\pipe>pipe pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>pipe 0<pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>type pipe.pl \| pipe \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd; c:\test\pipe>pipe pipe.pl 'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. c:\test\pipe>pipe 0<pipe.pl 'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. c:\test\pipe>set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;.pl; c:\test\pipe>pipe pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>pipe 0<pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>type pipe.pl \| pipe \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>del pipe.pl c:\test\pipe>cd .. c:\test>rmdir pipe [download]	[reply] [d/l]
Re^7: Out of date over <> and 5.10 (re-reproduce) by tye (Sage) on Sep 08, 2010 at 18:41 UTC
Thank you! Would you consider saving off then deleting your Classes/.pl registry key and trying the test case again? (Any other attempts to find quirks that impact this problem also appreciated.) - tye	[reply]
Re^8: Out of date over <> and 5.10 (re-reproduce) by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Sep 08, 2010 at 19:15 UTC
Here's the script tweaked to save, delete and restore the reg key: echo on reg export HKLM\Software\Classes\.pl saved.reg /y reg delete HKLM\Software\Classes\.pl /f assoc .pl=perltest perl -e"system(qq(ftype perltest=$^X \"%%1\" %%))" ftype perltest mkdir pipe cd pipe pipe perl -e "print 'print qq(\| $_) while <>'" > pipe.pl set pathext=.pl;.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd; pipe pipe.pl pipe < pipe.pl type pipe.pl \| pipe set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd; pipe pipe.pl pipe < pipe.pl set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;.pl; pipe pipe.pl pipe < pipe.pl type pipe.pl \| pipe del pipe.pl cd .. rmdir pipe reg delete HKLM\Software\Classes\.pl /f reg import saved.reg del saved.reg [download] And here the results of a run on my system (no difference that I can see): c:\test>pipetest c:\test>echo on c:\test>reg export HKLM\Software\Classes\.pl saved.reg /y The operation completed successfully. c:\test>reg delete HKLM\Software\Classes\.pl /f The operation completed successfully. c:\test>assoc .pl=perltest .pl=perltest c:\test>perl -e"system(qq(ftype perltest=$^X \"%1\" %))" perltest=C:\Perl64\bin\perl.exe "%1" %* c:\test>ftype perltest perltest=C:\Perl64\bin\perl.exe "%1" %* c:\test>mkdir pipe c:\test>cd pipe c:\test\pipe>pipe 'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. c:\test\pipe>perl -e "print 'print qq(\| $_) while <>'" 1>pipe.pl c:\test\pipe>set pathext=.pl;.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd; c:\test\pipe>pipe pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>pipe 0<pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>type pipe.pl \| pipe \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd; c:\test\pipe>pipe pipe.pl 'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. c:\test\pipe>pipe 0<pipe.pl 'pipe' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. c:\test\pipe>set pathext=.com;.exe;.bat;.cmd;.pl; c:\test\pipe>pipe pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>pipe 0<pipe.pl \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>type pipe.pl \| pipe \| print qq(\| $_) while <> c:\test\pipe>del pipe.pl c:\test\pipe>cd .. c:\test>rmdir pipe c:\test>reg delete HKLM\Software\Classes\.pl /f The operation completed successfully. c:\test>reg import saved.reg The operation completed successfully. c:\test>del saved.reg c:\test> [download] Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice. RIP an inspiration; A true Folk's Guy	[reply] [d/l] [select]