BrowserUk from 2003:
The result is the only way to approach a 'safe' and cross-platform
implementation of threads in perl is to emulate forking.
and from 2005:
Though I think if [Perl] threads did not try to emulate fork
(underlining added by me).
Then tye from 2010:
Perl's "threads" came to be because no Perl porter was able to remove the
race conditions from trying to use real threads with Perl. So they switched
to using threads to emulate fork() but much less efficiently in both memory
and CPU required.
and a short time later:
Perl protects its internals by making full copies of its internals (the
interpreter state and all data) -- emulating fork but less efficiently.
BrowserUk spawned multiple extended threads and subthreads railing
against my stating that iThreads "emulate fork". Including such quotes as:
iThreads do not emulate fork.
(from Re^12: Utter FUD!, original emphasis preserved) and
[Perl] Threads do not emulate fork
(from Re^6: Utter FUD!) and
But neither are [iThreads] new processes--forks defining
characteristic--so any allusion to that is simplistic, inaccurate and
deliberately misleading.
(from Re^12: Utter FUD!). Plus lots of other complaining about people daring to
mention "fork emulation".
Unfortunately, I have no idea what motivated BrowserUk to so vehemently contradict himself. Nor what he has dreamed up that leads him
to claim "Tye's statement has [...] a lot of political intent"
nor why he considers it "simplistic, inaccurate", and (especially)
"deliberately misleading" nor what makes him say "I may have my
suspicions about his reasoning" and "I am wilfully
understanding Tye's motivation".
I have not seen even a solid hint as to what this "motivation" that
BrowserUk has dreamed up is. Just the above extremely vague alluding to
some secret motivation that I am hiding but that BrowserUk has sleuthed
out but refuses to mention.
Perhaps the strong reaction is BrowserUk (in part) reacting to his
previously being "simplistic, inaccurate and deliberately misleading"?
Maybe that was the point of linking to the "history lesson". If so,
that certainly wasn't clear to me.
I don't know. Note that I used quotations because, not understanding what
BrowserUk is going on about, trying to paraphase would surely lead to worse
mischaracterization (than the deliberate mischaracterization that will likely
be claimed via willfully taking the quotes out of context). Well, I made it
trivial to view the context in many cases, in case one is curious, and made the literal parts clear enough that super search can be used for the others.
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