in reply to Re^4: Nodelets' layout
in thread Nodelets' layout

But in your prior complaining you didn't even mention the first "|" not lining up. That is certainly undesirable. As for what you say you see:

| My info | User | Display | Nodelet | Timezone | Signature | Newest Nodes | RAT Style | Free Nodelet | Personal Nodelet | Message | Pmdev | ignored users

There's no way I could see that in my browser. The closest my browser could come would be:

 | My info | User | Display | Nodelet
| Timezone | Signature | Newest
Nodes
| RAT Style | Free Nodelet
| Personal Nodelet | Message
| Pmdev | ignored users

(because the "before" content is " | " not " |").

And the break in the middle of "Newest Nodes" is why I only advocate this style for tersely labeled links. The Settings Nodelet uses moderately terse labels but perhaps they aren't terse enough to qualify for this style of list. The labels could be made more terse, the style changed to "one link per line", or the deviations from extreme terseness could be worked around via s/ / /g. The last option might be the best.

FYI, what I currently see is:

| My info | User | Display
| Nodelet | Timezone
| Signature | Newest Nodes
| RAT Style | Free Nodelet
| Personal Nodelet | Message
| Pmdev | ignored users

(except for the bug of the extra space before the first "|") Which is less than 1/2 the vertical space of the non-terse style so I, FYI, personally prefer it that way.

Now, if you'd like to get off your visual design high horse and trade ranting for giving a useful bug report and maybe offer a little help, then somebody might be able to figure out why you are getting line breaks immediately after "|"s (probably resulting in prettier rendering for more than just you). Have you forced your browser to reload the site CSS recently? (I'm not convinced browsers are sane about how they decide that stuff needs to be reloaded, despite the plethora of overlapping standard features meant to address such things -- after doing some testing of many of them.)

I'd love for somebody to figure out where the extra leading space is coming from (or, second best, how to get that same leading space on each line). I choose to not do CSS except for myself (where I don't have to worry about bugs in other people's browsers) and then only rarely and rather minimally, so it won't be me.

Just FYI, I don't actually use the Settings Nodelet. In my Free Nodelet I have a span of links for settings that looks like:

... | me pad fn u s disp ndlt tz sig | ...

(The rest I access elsewhere or don't use.) I have the Settings Nodelet configured to display, but that's just so I know what it looks like for when helping others trying to use the site or to change the site.

- tye        

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Re^6: Nodelets' layout
by Argel (Prior) on Dec 04, 2010 at 00:08 UTC
    The way things usually work on PerlMonks is if we do not like something we are encouraged to use JavaScript and/or CSS to change it (like we did in Nodelets on the left?). Given the above in combination with how things looked when the code was first pushed out (when almost every nodelet was affected), Nodelets' layout, and Site facelift? why would I ever think this is a bug?!? Next time, post what it is supposed to look like so we can tell if there is a bug vs. different standards in aesthetics.

    Anyway...

    Is that first space a bug? Or does the symbol/token indicating a linked list contain a leading and trailing space? That is: " | ".

    Firefox is already set to load the page every time. How would I force the browser to load the latest site CSS? Or even verify that it did? Would Ctrl+F5 do the trick?

    I was going to post the custom CSS and Javascript I am using, but I removed all of it and set the theme back to the default and the problem still exists! Even stranger, in IE7 the pipes are not even visible!

    In my display settings, I have the following set:

    • Render <spoiler> tags as: div
    • Enforce proper nesting of HTML: Checked
    • HTML error reporting during Preview: 4
    • Code Wrap Length: 80
    • Auto Code Wrapping: Checked
    • Large Code Font: Checked
    • Show a ID tags on notes?: Checked
    Not sure what to look at after that.

    Note: Using Firefox 3.6.12 with several extensions like Adblock, CS Lite, and NoScript (latter two are set to allow PM).

    Update: BTW, what browser are you using?

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