in reply to Re^6: Perl Alarm Not Working
in thread Perl Alarm Not Working

It appears that MySql is doing funny things to SIGALRM.

No, it doesn't. It's the first bullet. The alarm signal is received. C calls are not interruptible, so calling the handler is delayed until the C code returns. alarm is working as expected.

1) Is this problem fixable?

You can interrupt C code by using unsafe signals, but it can leave the process in a weird state.

2) The whole purpose of this exercise is to find a way to get out of the MySql operation if it takes longer than 5 sec. to do MySql.

Perhaps you should start a thread with that question.

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Re^8: Perl Alarm Not Working
by Anonymous Monk on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:42 UTC

      While subjecting oneself to heisenbugs and seg faults willingly is not necessarily dumb, it's definitely not wise.

        So you are declaring all the millions of line of pre-5.8 Perl that used signals, and all the billions of lines of C that still use "unsafe" signal handling, "definitely not wise.

        Which according to your logic means that the authors of Perl::Unsafe::Signals, along with those p5pers that left the PERL_SIGNALS=unsafe workaround in place should be condemned for their actions?

        Or maybe there is another reason for your continued stance.

Re^8: Perl Alarm Not Working
by aceofspace (Acolyte) on Dec 21, 2010 at 12:30 UTC
           C calls are not interruptible

    Hmm...?? How do we explain the followings:

    I made a demostration delibrately make MySql execute to a Maximum time of 5 sec, then set a timeout alarm of 3 sec in eval{} to prevent MySql execution more than 3 sec.

    To my surprise, timeout alarm in eval{} stops MySql execution exactly at 3 sec. COSISTENTLY

    The followings is the demonstration script:
    #!/usr/bin/perl $max_time = 5; $timeout = 3; use DBI; print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; sub do_counter { $time1 = time; $time2 = time; $counter = 0; $time_ran = $time2 - $time1; $dbh=DBI->connect("dbi:mysql:$database:localhost","username"," +password"); $query="SELECT name FROM test"; $sth=$dbh->prepare($query); $sth->execute(); while ( @row = $sth->fetchrow_array ) { while($time_ran <= $max_time) { $conter++; $time2 = time; $time_ran = $time2 - $time1; } } $sth->finish; $dbh->disconnect ||die("Couldn't disconnect to database!\n"); } eval { local $SIG{ALRM} = sub { die "alarm\n" }; alarm $timeout; &do_counter; alarm 0; }; if($@) { print "$@, Time Ran: $time_ran, Counter: $conter\n"; exit; } print "Time Ran: $time_ran, Counter: $conter\n"; exit;

    As you can see, I delibrately make a counter loop inside MySql's while ( @row = $sth->fetchrow_array ) loop. The counter loop can run to a $max_time of 5 sec. before it stops.

    In the eva{} I set a timeout alarm of 3 sec. to stop MySql execution from going over 3 sec.

    When I ran the above script, I got the following results consistently:

    alarm, Time Ran: 3, Counter: 3341554
    alarm, Time Ran: 3, Counter: 3416456

    These results show that alarm in eval{} has stopped MySql execution in 3 sec.

    Can we not say then that alarm has interrupted MySql C Calls (e.g. calls to the db driver), contrary to what you said?

    You can do the same demostration with the above script by doing the followings:

    1) Create a table TEST with a single column: name CHAR(30) NOT NULL
    2) Enter 3 names, like John, Paul, Mary in the table.
    3) Run the above script.

      Can we not say then that alarm has interrupted MySql C Calls (e.g. calls to the db driver), contrary to what you said?

      No.

      while ( @row = $sth->fetchrow_array ) { while($time_ran <= $max_time) { $conter++; $time2 = time; $time_ran = $time2 - $time1; } }

      isn't C.

      Can we not say then that alarm has interrupted MySql C Calls (e.g. calls to the db driver), contrary to what you said?

      No, pay attention , unsafe signals will interrupt c calls. Refer to documentation, its what we do.

        Fine. How can we tell which signals are safe, which signals are unsafe then?