in reply to Perl as Cr*p?

I think Perl is a little like chess...it's easy to learn the basics, but it takes time to become a master.

Since most people are satisfied with "good enough," it's not surprising there are a lot of poor Perl programmers. However, I think there are a lot of poor programmers in every language.

It's more obvious with Perl, because Perl makes the simple stuff easy and the hard stuff doable...it also makes it very easy to bark up the wrong tree.

If you're not comfortable with that, take a look at what people outside the Perl/[Li|U]nix/O'Reilly community have to work with. Do some simple searches and look at the quality of the examples you'll find. Granted, there are notable exceptions, but those are few and far between. Sturgeon's Law applies to Perl information sites as well.

It's not a problem with Perl; it's with ourselves. If we are dissatisfied with certain assessments of our community, dislike certain Perl script archives, or decry the lack of attention given to the most basic security measures, good programming practises, and so on, then would it not be wise to do better? To create and post that which we would rather see? To truly lead by example?

I don't think we'll help all the poor programmers, but we can help the ones that want to be better, the ones that can become better--but only if we become part of the solution.

To be fair, I'm fully aware that some are trying to solve the problem:

I applaud these and encourage them. I think the Monastery and the Perl Community at large would benefit if we'd focus less on what's wrong with whatever and focus more on making sure that we're all doing what's right.

--f

Replies are listed 'Best First'.
Re: Re: Perl as Cr*p?
by toadi (Chaplain) on Jun 16, 2001 at 20:29 UTC
    Well what I noticed is that most people think perl is a scripting language and not a *real* programming language...

    Sadly but true most perl programmers I met only script in perl...



    --
    My opinions may have changed,
    but not the fact that I am right

      Once you know Perl, why should you want to script in other languages. The number of times I've started to write a Bash script or a DOS bat file, only to finish it in Perl...

      Portability, flexibility, power and expressability count in scripts as well!