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in thread How to ask a question in the Perl community, and where to ask it

Counterproductive?

That depends on your aim, I suppose.

I try not to flip the bozo bit on people. I try to separate behavior from person. I've had very pleasant conversations with people who've exhibited awful behavior sometimes, and I've had unpleasant experiences with people who are normally very pleasant. It happens. We're human.

With that said, there are a few people in the world I want nothing more to do with for the foreseeable future—but what point is there in naming and shaming them in public? Our disagreements are private (and, admittedly, may be one sided).

I take it this way. Certainly I'd rather be called on the carpet for doing something wrong than for being someone wrong. Tell me I've behaved or spoken or written poorly and I won't like it, but I'll accept it far better than if you tell me I'm a horrible person. I don't think I'm alone in that.

(Besides, if you want to see a more civil Perl community, I think you have to be more civil yourself. Replacing a sinister cabal with a sinister anti-cabal does no one else any good.)

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Re^4: How to ask a question in the Perl community, and where to ask it
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 30, 2011 at 18:36 UTC
    If I try to be reasonable and find a reasonable solution to this, it's for people to know that they should not talk to mst&gang, and decentralize and split #perl's population in other channels without mst&gang. That's for IRC. As for Mailing-lists the same goes. And basically everywhere there should be alternatives so we get rid of monopolies.
      If I try to be reasonable and find a reasonable solution to this,

      The reasonable solution is for you to put up your cash/hardware/whatever, start your own channel, do your own thing