I just noticed that the "comment on" entry box shows:
Use <p> text here (a paragraph) </p> and <code> code here </code>
to format your post, its "PerlMonks-approved HTML":
before the textinput area. Is that a change following the discussion of the Anonymous poster who didn't format his post at all? I'm glad to see that the discussion was fruitful.

However, it doesn't show before on the entry box at the bottom used to start a new thread, which is where the clueless supplicants will be needing it.

I don't follow the grammar above, however. After the comma I get a mental syntax error.

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Re: Improved instructions
by Corion (Patriarch) on May 11, 2011 at 07:31 UTC

    Yes, that change was made in response to that discussion.

    As for the grammar, I'm no expert on grammar. I mentally read it as:

    Use...to format your post — its "PerlMonks-approved HTML":
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      "It is PerlMonks-approved..."? Should be it’s.

      How about ..."to format your post. See tag list below." with that being a href to an anchor where it lists "Perl Monks Approved HTML tags" and other links, after the textinput area.

      (I'm also a writer, so my English grammar is pretty good.)

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        Its so funny that its reads almost exactly the same as its for people that have no native English tongue and that the native speakers cannot parse its unquoted occurrence where the quoted one was meant to be.

        (all quotes are intentionally left out!)


        Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn
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Re: Improved instructions
by jmcnamara (Monsignor) on May 11, 2011 at 09:07 UTC

    I think this would be clearer if it was displayed something like the following within the textarea: 

    <p> 
Use tags for paragraphs
</p> 

<code>
# and code.
</code>

    [download]

    This shouldn't apply to anyone who has a Node Template set already.

    --
    John.

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      please, no! Then I would have to select it every time that I post something in order to get rid of it.


      Enjoy, Have FUN! H.Merijn
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        It could be limited to Anonymous Monk or users with less than 10 posts.

        And, as I added above, it shouldn't display for anyone who already has a Node Template entry in their user settings.

        --
        John.

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Re: Improved instructions
by Argel (Prior) on May 11, 2011 at 18:34 UTC
    FYI, "it's" is short for "it is" (update: and "it has") while "its" is the possessive form of "it". I believe it's the only word with that kind of apostrophe behavior -- literally the exception that proves the rule! (^_^)

    Update: The exception I was referring to is that only "it" has the contraction to go along with it (unlike yours, his, hers, ours, its, theirs, and whose).

    Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
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      Most personal pronouns take a final ‑s to indicate possession: only the first‐ and second‐person singular forms are exempt. All have the ‑s, and, because they are personal, do not take an apostrophe to indicate possession.

      The word its can be a personal pronoun (in the genitive case — but not in the nominative or objective cases) or a personal adjective. Both indicate possession, but the former is a substantive and the latter is not. Personal pronouns and personal adjectives never take an apostrophe to indicate possession.

      • The personal pronouns in the genitive/possessive case are mine, thine, his, hers, its, ours, yours, and theirs.
      • The personal adjectives are my, thy, his, her, its, our, your, and their.

      The relative pronoun whose nominative case is who and whose objective case is whom has a genitive case of whose.

      The impersonal pronoun one, not being a personal pronoun, takes an apostrophe to form one’s. The corresponding impersonal adjective is identical in form to the impersonal pronoun just mentioned: one’s.

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        Now that is our true tchrist!

        btw... A while ago you wrote an article on why certain words should be spelled (e.g.) "occurrence" rather than "occurance", but I can't find it now. Is it still available?

        I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
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      Not at all! qw/his hers its/ are all of the same kind but for different genders. None of them have an apostrophe and all end in 's'.

      Nouns take /'s/ to become possessive. Pronouns have built-in possessive meaning if they are possessive pronouns, and none take an /'s/ to become possessive.

      You are confused because /it/ and /its/ have similar spellings, in contrast to /him/ and /his/ and other such pairs. But /it/ is a pronoun, not a noun.

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        Yep, you're right!! Need to get more sleep!! See OP for an update.

        Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
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      literally the exception that proves the rule! (^_^)

      No, not literally, because exceptions don't prove rules.

      I reckon we are the only monastery ever to have a dungeon stuffed with 16,000 zombies.
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        Of course it doesn't in the formal sense. Doesn't mean it's not fun to use it in the less formal sense. Lighten up a little bit!
        (idiomatic) The rare occurrence of a counterexample to a rule, used to underscore that the rule exists

        See also Exception_that_proves_the_rule#Loose_rhetorical_sense

        Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
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      Whose rules and who's making them?

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Re: Improved instructions (grammar)
by tye (Sage) on May 11, 2011 at 18:19 UTC 
        s/, its/; it is/
or  s/, its/.  It is/

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    Update: First regex applied. Perhaps someone or other (if allowed) will put similar improvements on the "new root node" form(s).

    - tye        

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Re: Improved instructions
by locked_user rattan (Initiate) on May 14, 2011 at 04:45 UTC
    Ok..., I got it.. I am new here...

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