Re^3: globbed variable in parse cgi form

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Re^4: globbed variable in parse cgi form - beyond me by Corion (Patriarch) on Jun 27, 2011 at 07:45 UTC
So you think that creating at least 10 files, and heaving the concept of Model / View / Controller is helpful for somebody who is just starting with their first program to display a web page, without explaining what that separation is? The screencast is named "introduction", but it doesn't explain the conceptional splits that Catalyst makes, nor does it mention how dispatching goes from the URL to a subroutine. I understand that some people think that Catalyst (or any other framework) is great and that it greatly reduces their time to produce a running application, but when starting out with a first, small application, the learning curve of a generic framework is far too high to be useful in connection with the concepts that are necessary to understand. You cannot appreciate the magic "routes" dispatchers or how the class hierarchy gets utilized by the framework until you have a larger application to work with. Starting out with a framework that has all these concepts as necessary prerequisites makes things harder, not easier, and I argue that "easier" is "better" in the case of somebody just starting out.	[reply]
Re^5: globbed variable in parse cgi form - beyond me by Anonymous Monk on Jun 27, 2011 at 08:17 UTC
So you think that creating at least 10 files, and heaving the concept of Model / View / Controller is helpful for somebody who is just starting with their first program to display a web page, without explaining what that separation is?... Yes, absolutely, if you're a programmer familiar with concepts of Model / View / Controller, having a program (catalyst) create 10 files for you is absolutely helpful ...nor does it mention how dispatching goes from the URL to a subroutine. Actually this part it does explain in the case of somebody just starting out. Even somebody just starting out (which wasn't established until after my initial post), should, after watching a 7 minutes video, be able to recognize: Yes, this will help me, I want to learn more No, this is too confusing and complicated, its not for me	[reply]
Re^6: globbed variable in parse cgi form - beyond me by Corion (Patriarch) on Jun 27, 2011 at 08:53 UTC
Ah - then I just misunderstood your first post of ... if you want things fast and easy ... as "fast and easy to learn", instead of an invitation to look at other approaches.	[reply]
Re^7: globbed variable in parse cgi form - beyond me by Don Coyote (Hermit) on Jun 30, 2011 at 16:37 UTC