While these is a really fascinating subject with some actual potential "good" uses, I have to agree with tye in the face that most hackers are just "script kiddies" who change a line or two and then we havesomething to worry about.

I'm not suggesting that these subjects are not discussed, but perhaps it would be best not to be posting working examples. Even if the principles where demonstrated through unrelated code fragments, this would deter, I think, a lot of the "coding challenged" little turds who have nothing better to do than try and break stuff.

Personally, I think a much larger threat is the downloading of modules from CPAN. I have a feeling that a lot of admins and programmers don't have the time or inclination to do a code review of every module they use.

-Lee

"To be civilized is to deny one's nature."