Re^3: best sort

Several of those sequences are demonstrably wrong: they make a claim for a national collating sequence that is specifically counter to the ordering specifically prescribed by monolingual language books in that language. For example, ninuco would collate before niño in Spain, not after it.

I refuse to take seriously some Stone Age directive to pretend everything is ISO 9959-1. That has no relevance to Unicode whatsoever. It is stupid and wrong, and indeed offensive. Your lists are useless to the point of risibility. We don't live in a Latin-1 world anymore, and indeed never did.

What an utter waste of time.

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Re^4: best sort by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Aug 23, 2011 at 13:50 UTC
I refuse to take seriously some Stone Age directive to pretend everything is ISO 9959-1. And that is exactly what is wrong with Unicode. It was formulated by American Companies, for American Companies in their typical "We'll right the world's wrongs and they'll see the superiority of our edicts" mentality. You doubt this, look up HAN unification Well guess what! Whilst you're making shit up and trying foist your woefully incomplete -- *you've still* to answer how you're going to work the cyrillic, Indus, HAN and all the other non-roman scripts into your magical world** of -- "unified collation ordering" upon the world, some of us having been getting on with the pragmatic process of getting things to work in the real world. For 30 years or more. Your lists are useless to the point of risibility. We don't live in a Latin-1 world anymore, and indeed never did. What an utter waste of time. Those lists and quotes are taken directly from the EU's website. Live, current, mandated by EU law and working across 27 countries, 500 million people, and 25% of the global economy. And you're missing the point. The text doesn't have to be restricted to or stored as Latin-1. It is just collated and indexed that way. Jump up and down all you like, we'll see whether your ideas still persist say 30 years from now. Like I said waaay back there, history will tell. Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error. "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.	[reply]

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Re^4: best sort
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Aug 23, 2011 at 13:50 UTC

I refuse to take seriously some Stone Age directive to pretend everything is ISO 9959-1.

And that is exactly what is wrong with Unicode. It was formulated by American Companies, for American Companies in their typical "We'll right the world's wrongs and they'll see the superiority of our edicts" mentality. You doubt this, look up HAN unification

Well guess what! Whilst you're making shit up and trying foist your woefully incomplete -- you've still to answer how you're going to work the cyrillic, Indus, HAN and all the other non-roman scripts into your magical world of -- "unified collation ordering" upon the world, some of us having been getting on with the pragmatic process of getting things to work in the real world. For 30 years or more.

Your lists are useless to the point of risibility. We don't live in a Latin-1 world anymore, and indeed never did.
What an utter waste of time.

Those lists and quotes are taken directly from the EU's website. Live, current, mandated by EU law and working across 27 countries, 500 million people, and 25% of the global economy.

And you're missing the point. The text doesn't have to be restricted to or stored as Latin-1. It is just collated and indexed that way.

Jump up and down all you like, we'll see whether your ideas still persist say 30 years from now. Like I said waaay back there, history will tell.

Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.

"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".

In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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