I realised it wouldnt be the most insighful post out there,thats what the err refers to... I guess I was a bit vague myself as I do understand a few things and have put in some effort; I just have an old script that does some batch text process and could save me quite a few hours on VB if only I knew a few more things. So I thought it couldnt hurt to ask. Anyway I now realise my post was quite rude so sorry for that. Thank you for you wisdom.