in reply to Re^5: SV creation inside XS
in thread SV creation inside XS

I think this is very inconvenient: in perlapi, all blessing tools work with the scalar containing the referent, but not the thing being referenced, like the "sv_isobject" you mentioned above.
I'm asking about: whether there are tools work on the referent, other than the wrapping RV. Otherwise I have to create a temporary wrapper each time I need such operation, which seemingly not quite necessary:
HV* my_thing = something->get_from_somewhere(); // test if my_thing is blessed SV* tmp = newRV_noinc((SV*)my_thing); if (sv_isobject(tmp)) { // blah blah blah } SvREFCNT_dec(tmp); // I hate that!!!

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Re^7: SV creation inside XS
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Nov 09, 2011 at 05:12 UTC
    Otherwise I have to create a temporary wrapper each time I need such operation, which seemingly not quite necessary:

    As I said: "(Doesn't make a whole bunch of sense to me,".

    In theory, you should be able to test the appropriate flag bit directly:

    0x00100000 SVs_OBJECT

    This flag is set when the object is "blessed". It can only be set for value type SvPVMG or subtypes of it. This flag also indicates that the STASH pointer is valid and points to a namespace HV.

    But I cannot find any macro for accessing it, and direct access is frowned upon. That said, it seems unlikely that the flags word is going to change much, so it is a possibility.

    But that said, the way you will normally gain access to your objects is through your functions having been passed an argument. Which will usually, if not always, be an RV that references it. In that case, you wouldn't have to create another Rv as you shoudl still have access to the one passed to you.

    The only other case I can think of is when the object has just been created (ie. in new() or equivalent.), at which point you will (should) know whether you have already blessed it. Also, you would have to create an RV before returning it to the caller, so there would be no need for a temporary one.

    I think that to make headway, you would have to show the circumstances (ie.code) where have the object but no RV and need to determine if it has already been blessed?


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