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Trigonometry is a strange subject. One way to think about trigonometry is that it is a practical, numeric form of geometry that emphasizes the real world and getting answers instead of worrying about proofs. To balance this practical information, a course in trig will include a long section on "trigonometric identities." The importance of these identities is difficult to discover until you get to some *very* advanced topics in engineering (or somethine else I've missed altogether!)

The most important thing is that you have a really solid understanding of geometry. My favorite tool for learning Euclidean geometry really well is a commercial Windows program called The Geometer's Sketchpad. Add-on modules for the sketchpad include trigonometry, so this might be a great way to learn it.

For calculus, there are many books to choose from. A solid, modern calculus textbook is Thomas' Calculus. Buy it used! This, combined with a Schaums Outline, is an unstopable combination. Thomas is both loved and hated by students and faculty all over, so don't be surprised if there are flames on this one.

If you have trouble finding a book that really suits you, extreme measures are called for. It turns out that there was a 'golden age' for textbooks. Books were written clearly and there was no worry about conforming to the latest educational fads. These years were from about 1958 to 1964. These books were written to win the space race. Many of these books can now be found for cheap at used book stores. The best bookstore for books from this period is Powell's Used Books.

If you have trouble affording the books you need, buy a used book. Also, you may want to buy additional, low cost books to fill in the gaps for your main text. This is especially important if you are teaching yourself, because there will be sections of your textbook that won't make sense. An explanation from another book may be all that you need to make everything clear.

A publisher that specializes in supplementary reading and problems is Schaums. You need Schaum's Outline of Theory and Problems of Differential and Integral Calculus and Schaum's outline of theory and problems of college mathematics: algebra, discrete mathematics, trigonometry, geometry, introduction to caculus.

A publisher that specializes in low-cost books is Dover. I don't recommend a Dover book as a main text. Instead, find a specialized Dover books that cover something that is interesting and uses the advanced math you are learning.

It should work perfectly the first time! - toma

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Re: (2) What??? You wanna learn math?
by Cirollo (Friar) on Jul 06, 2001 at 19:43 UTC
    Older editions of Thomas' Calculus had a really neat appendix called "Lies that your Computer and Calculator Told You", and it had a bunch of examples showing how to break, confuse or at least horribly slow down a lot of computational methods for some mathematical problems.

    The point? Computers can never 'replace' math. They make things easier, but aren't a do-all end-all solution.

    For example, try to use a TI-85 to find the derivative of the absolute value of x at x=0. The calculator tells you the answer is 0, when really it is undefined.

    Sadly, that appendix seems to have disappeared from the newest edition (I could be wrong there).

There's no doubting Thomas! (Was Re: Re: What??? You wanna learn math?)
by adamsj (Hermit) on Jul 06, 2001 at 19:44 UTC
    Yes, yes, yes! to your suggestion of Thomas' Calculus book--it's so good, they actually reprinted the third edition as a classic. I have an alternate fourth edition, which is slightly more abstract in its approach, but still great.

    I didn't really get calculus until I stumbled on the third edition in the town library--I'd tried many others, but that one really clicked for me. If I'd only found that one in ninth grade!

    adamsj

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