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in thread Sometimes Perl is awesome: Duck Duck Go edition

I switched to DuckDuckGo primarily because google's results were becoming more frequently more frustrating and very often completely useless. The fact that DuckDuckGo has sane privacy features was "just" a huge added 'plus'.

Over a decade ago I realized that the single most important feature of a search engine is: Show results that match all of the search terms before showing any that only match some of them. The number two feature for me is to make it obvious where the line between "matches all" and "matches some" falls in the presented results.

Google spent a good decade following this maxim by virtue of only showing results that matched all search terms. Over that time, I've griped a lot about places that make this "classic rookie mistake" in regard to searching. CPAN is a great example of a place that does a truly horrid job when given more than one search term.

But several months ago, google decided to start silently throwing in results that only matched some of your search terms. This was not just "the last straw" for me atop the growing pile of steps google kept taking to pay less and less attention to what I actually asked them to search for. It was also a fundamental mistake that, as always, turned google into a frequently useless search service.

Yes, sometimes my DuckDuckGo search finds nothing and I fall back to another service. But for most other cases, DuckDuckGo gives better and often much better results than google. By searching DuckDuckGo first, I get both of my top features in a search engine. The obvious "line" is when I resort to google's much more numerous and much less selective list of results.

I thought PM linked to the https+html version but it is indeed currently linking to the http+html version. https+html seems a better choice to me as well.

- tye        

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Re^4: Sometimes Perl is awesome: Duck Duck Go edition (google--)
by Anonymous Monk on Feb 08, 2012 at 01:37 UTC

    I thought PM linked to the https+html version but it is indeed currently linking to the http+html version. https+html seems a better choice to me as well.

    FWIW, on that front, if using ddg/https, it links results to https results where available (like wikipedia ), but if you try to post with that url, you'll get permission denied -- seems to me there shouldn't be much difference between allowing http and https links to wikipedia ( and other allowed links )

      seems to me there shouldn't be much difference between allowing http and https links to wikipedia ( and other allowed links )

      Sorry, I was not talking about "allowed links". wp:// links to Wikipedia and ddg:// links to DuckDuckGo. [ddg://searching] links to searching.

      I think ddg:// should link to http*s*://duckduckgo.com/html/ instead, though I haven't looked into it in any depth.

      - tye        

        I think ddg:// should link to http*s*

        I guess I'm missing the point here, by why does a publicly visible search link -- it's on PM -- need to go via a secure request?

        Who or what will it protect that is worth imposing the extra load on DDG?

        Personally I would have though encrypting the passwords here was a higher priority goal.


        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

        The start of some sanity?

        I think ddg:// should link to [https]...

        Now it does.

        Thanks for applying the patch, btw.)