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See "For the sake of completeness, the COPACOBANA FPGA implementation tops 2^16 Mencryptions/s.".

Again, reread it yourself, they talking about DES, there's no mention of SHA on the page.

Sure, if you can enforce your 16-chars

If protected information worth the money why not. If you have to work with people who are not able to remember passwords, probably you should choose different authentication method

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Re^9: SaltedDigest Salt?
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Feb 09, 2012 at 18:22 UTC

    Yes. But if you look back at the FPGA pdf I linked, you'll see that they tackled: SHA-1 Skipjack 3DES SHA-512 AES-256. And if you skip ahead to fig.12 , you'll see that in their units, they could process DES at a rate of 91 Mb/s.

    Whilst processing SHA512 is over 6 times faster at 616 Mb/s!

    The information is all there in the links I provided. Burying your head in the sand doesn't make it go away.

    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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      Do you realize that 9625000 blocks per second ( 616 Mb/s ) is not the same as 2^16?
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        Of course.

        Let me step through it for you again:

        1. This pdf shows that FPGAs can be used to perform both DES and SHA512 (and a bunch of others) encryption algorithms.
        2. Fig 12. of that pdf shows that SHA512 runs 6 times1 faster than DES.

          That experiment used a single FPGA to achieve 91 Mb/s DES.

        3. This link shows that the current record holder for performing DES encryption is The COPACOBANA device with a rate of 2^16 Mencryptions/s.
        4. I based my projections on the COPACOBANA's DES rate. But as shown, the SHA512 algorithm can be tackled at 6 times that speed.
        5. The 2008 version of the COPACOBANA device used 128 Virtex-4 SX 35 FPGAs to achieve that.

          These devices have 512 DSP slices running at 500Mhz to produce 250 Giga Multiply-Accumulate/second (GMACS) performance.

        6. Now, 4 years later, the hardware has moved on. The latest in that range is the Virtex-7 range.

          These devices have 7 times as many DSP slices (3,600) and 20 times2 the peformance (5,335GMACS).

        So, going slowly now. SHA512 can be performed 6x faster than DES, and DES has achieved a rate of 2^16Me/s on hardware with 250GMACS. The latest hardware is 20x faster.

        So I make that 65536e6 * 61 * 202 = 7.86432e15 SHA512 encryptions/s. Do you concur?

        And to bring the story right up to date. The latest hardware, teh RIVYERA can scale to 1796 FPGAs per rack. I'll let you do the math on what its throughput could be.

        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

        The start of some sanity?
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