Not sure if this is the right place to post. Can anyone tell me a good place to find a Perl job in the New York/Manhatten area? Been checking the big job web sites like monster, dice, and yahoo. I noticed that 95% of the jobs are posted by head hunters and staffing services. Makes me wonder how many actual jobs are out there.

I got my last job through a head hunter, and I couldn't help but feel like a bag of microwave popcorn. Stick it any old microwave, cook 2 and 1/2 minutes and we get our $$$$. Some of the jobs I've gotten offers for have very little to do with perl coding. Sometimes, I wonder if they've even bothered to read the resume.

Any help would be appreciated. I've spent a few years on and off programming in Perl and I wouldn't mind spending a few more ;)

PS. I currently live in Houston, so this isn't a small change.

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Re: Job Searching
by scain (Curate) on Jul 10, 2001 at 19:46 UTC
Re: Job Searching
by davorg (Chancellor) on Jul 10, 2001 at 20:07 UTC
Re: Job Searching
by particle (Vicar) on Jul 10, 2001 at 20:00 UTC
    well, i'm a consultant based in nyc, but i travel the country when i work. if you're looking for work in new york, think finance. or web. or medical. but mostly finance. but, perl programmer isn't exactly a job title. so figure out what you do (or want to do) with perl, and look there.

    if you want company names for their websites, try citibank, salomon smith barney, chase, merrill lynch, csfb, deutche bank....

    i hope i'm not breaking any rules here talking about jobs, i've rarely seen discussion about it, and i don't know if it's frowned upon. good luck in your search!

    ~Particle

Re: Job Searching
by aardvark (Pilgrim) on Jul 11, 2001 at 03:59 UTC
    I've gotten a few job leads and one actual job from The New York New Media Association Job Board

    It can be tough finding a job that is 100% pure Perl (ummm .... smell that fresh roasted nutty flavor). Usually it's a mix of Perl and some other stupid technology. I found that banks and publishers have a huge need for Perl (even if they don't know it yet ;-). Publishers are much more fun to work with than bankers. But Bankers have money to burn on beefy systems and uppity programmers.

    Good Luck.

    Get Strong Together!!

Re: Job Searching
by sierrathedog04 (Hermit) on Jul 10, 2001 at 21:21 UTC
    Stick it any old microwave, cook 2 and 1/2 minutes and we get our $$$$.
    So what is the problem? It is up to us to make our programming meaningful to our career and life goals. The client just wants results. He wants microwave, not gourmet.

    Gourmet programming is increasingly found in the open software movement, where the developer is the client and so can be as finicky and idealistic as he wishes.

      I'm sorry if there is any confusion on the popcorn reference. I was referring to the attitudes of the head hunters I've run into in the past.

      Part of my problem is that head hunters are so interested in getting their cut that they don't listen to me. I don't need meaningful. Heaven knows, I've done lots of meaningless things for one company or another. All I ask for is a decent work environment and for Perl to be one of the main requirements of the job.

      By the way, I think the average cut for a head hunter agency in this area is 20-30% of first years salary.

        Try www.headhunter.net, a lot of companies is posting jobs there without headhunters.

        average cut for a head hunter agency in this area is 20-30% of first years salary.

        So what? It's not from your pocket - company pays it, and they make sure headhunter delivers for it. If you can find jobs without them, do it.

        I worked couple months as a recruiter in placement agency. I will recommend this experience to each graduate - do it for 3 months for free as an intern! It will teach you the other side of business: That you have 10 job descriptions you are working with, and hundreds or thousands potential candidates. Sometimes you have the same positions what are posted on net. But you know more about the company than what is posted: because company is your client, you know something about inside politics in company, what they plan to do next, what thay really need (but HR did not want to print it in ad). You work with same manager hiring programmers for months, you know him by voice in phone. If you send him many wrong candidates without screening, you lose his business. You know how interview with previous candidate went, and why s/he was rejected, or why salary negotiation fizzled.

        You'll be able to read hundreds of resumes, learn how simple they should be, and how to make recruiter's job simpler (so make your resume be more likely to be picked).

        Really, I recommend any young programmer to try to play the other side.

        pmas

        To make errors is human. But to make million errors per second, you need a computer.

        I know what you mean about the head hunters. Last time I switched jobs I got asked about 12 times to go for interviews at companies looking for C++ programmers! I'd also get agencies phoning up and asking me what skills I had and that was the first section of my CV - right under my name for crying out loud.

        And you never get offered an interview for the tantalising job that got you to apply through the agency in the first place....

Re: Job Searching
by voyager (Friar) on Jul 10, 2001 at 20:01 UTC
    May also want to try Dice.