Hi Corion,
thx; I'll look into it.

Incidentally, would www:scripter be the correct soln, or is there something better? I'm not deep into any code right now, so changing is not an issue.

To clarify for anyone else, what I should have said is that although the browser sees the the whole page, inc login frame in the middle of the page just fine, 'Show source' just shows the surrounding html, but not the login frame at all... Thought I was going mad for while there ;)

Cheers
Chris