in reply to Re^8: Should I upload it on CPAN?
in thread Should I upload it on CPAN?

Exactly! If the module is already installed, so are the tests. Downloading them again is pointless.

The standard module installers (EUMM, MI, MB, etc) do not install the test suite as part of "make install" (or "./Build install"). CPAN.pm (though not CPANPLUS or cpanminus) can be configured to keep the entire source directory for a distribution which naturally includes the test suite, but it does not do so by default.

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Re^10: Should I upload it on CPAN?
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Feb 25, 2012 at 16:40 UTC
    The standard module installers (EUMM, MI, MB, etc) do not install the test suite

    You want all your tests 'installed'? If not, stop being facetious.

    CPAN.pm (though not CPANPLUS or cpanminus) can be configured to keep the entire source directory for a distribution which naturally includes the test suite, but it does not do so by default.

    Hm. I rarely use CPAN for installs, and I've certainly never configured it to do that, so I thought I take a look to see what it keeps around. 

    C:\test>dir \perl64\cpan\build
15/12/2011  17:27    <DIR>          .
15/12/2011  17:27    <DIR>          ..
03/09/2010  02:42    <DIR>          BerkeleyDB-0.43-qD7hPx
03/09/2010  02:42               943 BerkeleyDB-0.43-qD7hPx.yml
15/12/2011  17:20    <DIR>          ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.62-sv1XY8
15/12/2011  17:23             2,196 ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.62-sv1XY8.yml
22/09/2011  04:34    <DIR>          File-Tail-0.99.3-xW0Oph
22/09/2011  04:34             1,241 File-Tail-0.99.3-xW0Oph.yml
15/12/2011  17:27    <DIR>          Inline-CPP-0.33-uracNj
15/12/2011  18:24             1,212 Inline-CPP-0.33-uracNj.yml
18/12/2009  13:34    <DIR>          Math-Pari-2.01080603-u2vUQB
18/12/2009  13:35               977 Math-Pari-2.01080603-u2vUQB.yml
15/12/2011  17:27    <DIR>          Math-Prime-FastSieve-0.04-twg5cT
15/12/2011  17:27             1,198 Math-Prime-FastSieve-0.04-twg5cT.y
+ml
30/12/2009  19:51    <DIR>          Win32-API-0.59-D4CtW7
30/12/2009  19:51             1,018 Win32-API-0.59-D4CtW7.yml
30/12/2009  19:51    <DIR>          Win32-MediaPlayer-0.3-S_kzYg
30/12/2009  19:51             1,265 Win32-MediaPlayer-0.3-S_kzYg.yml

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    And there you have a record of every module I've ever installed via cpan. So let's take a quick look inside one of them: 

    C:\test>dir \perl64\cpan\build\BerkeleyDB-0.43-qD7hPx\t
03/09/2010  02:42    <DIR>          .
03/09/2010  02:42    <DIR>          ..
16/03/2010  21:55            23,292 btree.t
14/09/2008  15:29             1,373 cds.t
14/09/2008  15:29             1,557 db-3.0.t
14/09/2008  15:29             5,894 db-3.1.t
14/09/2008  15:29             1,028 db-3.2.t
14/09/2008  15:29            10,929 db-3.3.t
31/05/2009  16:03             2,170 db-4.3.t
14/09/2008  15:29             1,024 db-4.4.t
16/09/2008  21:28             5,359 db-4.6.t
30/09/2008  21:32               743 db-4.7.t
01/06/2009  20:07             7,928 db-4.8.t
14/09/2008  15:29               968 db-4.x.t
14/09/2008  15:30             2,083 destroy.t
14/03/2009  15:11             1,317 encode.t
14/09/2008  15:38            16,778 encrypt.t
27/05/2009  22:18             6,941 env.t
01/08/2010  09:31             8,193 examples.t
21/02/2009  12:55             8,471 examples.t.T
01/08/2010  09:31             2,772 examples3.t
21/02/2009  12:55             2,844 examples3.t.T
14/03/2009  14:23             8,485 filter.t
16/03/2010  21:58            18,411 hash.t
14/09/2008  15:30             6,082 join.t
15/09/2008  22:59             2,287 mldbm.t
22/08/2004  12:06               260 pod.t
13/03/2010  15:18            22,227 queue.t
13/03/2010  15:18            21,269 recno.t
16/09/2008  21:28             1,156 sequence.t
14/09/2008  15:31             5,255 strict.t
14/09/2008  15:31             4,591 subdb.t
03/09/2010  02:42    <DIR>          Test
14/09/2008  15:31             7,152 txn.t
14/09/2008  15:31             3,815 unknown.t
27/05/2009  19:49             6,628 util.pm
              33 File(s)        219,282 bytes
               3 Dir(s)  235,040,399,360 bytes free

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    All the tests sitting there just waiting.

    I've never used cpanplus (or minus), so let's try it out:C:\test>cpanp

    Read more... (73 kB)

    Ignoring the "Successfully installed" message despite the reams of errors, let's see what we can find:

    c:\Users\abcde\AppData\Roaming\.cpanplus\5.10.1\build\App-Reprove-0.00
+4>dir
 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is 8C78-4B42

 Directory of c:\Users\abcde\AppData\Roaming\.cpanplus\5.10.1\build\Ap
+p-Reprove-0.004

25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          .
25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          ..
25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          bin
25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          blib
13/12/2011  15:20               600 Changes
25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          inc
25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          lib
13/12/2011  15:20            18,309 LICENSE
25/02/2012  16:24            23,968 Makefile
12/12/2011  08:39                42 Makefile.PL
13/12/2011  15:21               845 MANIFEST
25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          meta
13/12/2011  15:20             1,089 META.yml
25/02/2012  16:24                 0 pm_to_blib
13/12/2011  15:20             1,425 README
13/12/2011  15:21             3,083 SIGNATURE
25/02/2012  16:24    <DIR>          t
12/12/2011  22:47               181 TODO
              10 File(s)         49,542 bytes
               8 Dir(s)  235,044,085,760 bytes free

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    And there it is, tests and all.

    But this isn't about what your module does -- I have the choice not to download it -- it is about the way you've chosen to make it do it.

    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

    The start of some sanity?
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      What you're seeing is the build cache. It's not kept indefinitely. CPAN.pm deletes stuff from it when it starts overflowing whatever size limit you've set for it. (Though I think it defaults to a fairly generous 100MB.)

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