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in thread Web-designing using PERL

If there is one single thing I hate about the Perl cultural ethos, it is this mindless obsession by usually reasonable grown men with divisive demarcators like the perl .v. Perl .v. PERL shibboleth. It's just another way to beat on newbies; to stroke your own collective egos; to show (false) superiority.

Writing & words are mechanism for communication. If you knew what he meant -- and everyone here does -- the purpose of those 4 glyphs -- regardless of the presence or absence of 6th bit -- is manifestly served.

After that, it is nothing more than "Haw haw, he wears glasses!" bullying.

With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

The start of some sanity?

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Re^9: Web-designing using PERL
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Mar 27, 2012 at 00:18 UTC
    It's just another way to beat on newbies; to stroke your own collective egos; to show (false) superiority.

    Thanks for the free, long-distance psychoanalysis. It was certainly worth every penny I paid for it.

    Do you know how many Perl books and tutorials I've read? (I don't remember any more.)

    Every one of them which misspelled "Perl" as "PERL" had serious technical inaccuracies. (Teaching novices to avoid these tutorials is worthwhile.)

    I don't interview C programmers, but a good friend does. Everyone who claims a working knowledge of "C/C++" has had serious technical deficiencies.

    Yes, language is fluid, and yes, descriptive linguists have a point you don't want to take too far, and yes, lording it over novices who fail to kowtow to some shibboleths of the dominant cultural cult practices is wrong, but at some point the science of computer programming has to distinguish between truth and falsehood, between fact and fiction, and between correctness and superstition.

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      Thanks for the free, long-distance psychoanalysis.

      You're welcome!

      ...

      Have you heard the saying: M'thinks he doth protest too much. (That's for free also!)

      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

      The start of some sanity?
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Re^9: Web-designing using PERL
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 27, 2012 at 11:37 UTC

    This discussion has become quite way too long, really. For what it's worth, I think it's stupid to call the language anything else than Perl or perl (for the shift-challenged ones). I don't write PYTHON, I don't write RUBY, I don't even write BASIC even though the last one might have some merit. They're just Python, Ruby, and Basic to me. And it is fine to correct newbies once or twice on the subject -- it might make them look less like newbies.

    But what I don't understand is experienced developers arguing about the correct capitalisation of their language's name.

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      But what I don't understand is experienced developers arguing about the correct capitalisation of their language's name.

      I don't give a monkey's how it is written. I tend to use "Perl" at the begining of a sentence and "perl" otherwise unless I am specifically trying to distinguish between the language and the executable.

      it might make them look less like newbies.

      What's the point in that? There is no shame in being a newbie -- everyone was one once. And attempting to conceal that just makes for greater frustration when responses are aimed at over their heads because of the assumption they are not total beginners.

      Most newbies will rapidly pick up on the clues they see in other peoples usage. Beating them over the head with it when they are just trying to get started will just drive them away.

      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

      The start of some sanity?
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Re^9: Web-designing using PERL
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 27, 2012 at 00:02 UTC
    "After that, it is nothing more than "Haw haw, he wears glasses!" bullying."

    Grow up and be a man.

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      Taint me you're bullying. But how old do you think the OP is? What's his or her personal disposition and emotional sensitivity?

      With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

      The start of some sanity?
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        "But hold do you think the OP is?"

        For all we know, YOU are the OP in disguise. Stop telling other people how to behave. Mind your own business. If you don't like it, down vote it. Haha.

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