Re^7: Make program used by Perl in windows

Is it just a tradition or is it more?

Tradition is more :)

Targeting yet another variant of make seems like a spectacular waste of time :)

I wouldn't target gnu make, i'd target its replacement, makepp - Compatible but reliable and improved replacement for make, Or I would target http://www.bakefile.org/, and you automagically support everything and then some (I know, wishful thinking again )

Yes, I know. And ExtUtils::MakeMaker is also "doomed" by it's maintainer!

Seems you've missed the problem behind the punchline, have you actually ~~watched~~ read the slideshow? Or at minimum The Plea? Schwerns point is, make is non-portable external tool, don't patch MakeMaker to work with another make or do something new, just extend Module::Build, switch your distributions to Module::Build

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Re^8: Make program used by Perl in windows by Corion (Patriarch) on May 02, 2012 at 08:08 UTC
The thing is that Module::Build has failed in its 10 years of existence to take over from ExtUtils::MakeMaker. In my opinion quite rightfully so, as it is far easier to debug a Makefile using `make -n` than it is to debug various opaque layers of Module::Build to find out what goes wrong. In retrospect, it seems that Module::Build falls in the same category as ORMs - instead of "I don't know SQL, so I want to write database access as if it were Perl" it falls in the pit of "I don't know `make` so I want to write module installation/compilation as if they were Perl". I understand that extending ExtUtils::MakeMaker may be much hairier than extending Module::Build, but when it fails, the Makefile generated by EU:MM is far easier to debug and "fix" (by direct editing) than divining the error cause from the Module::Build modules and inventing a fix for them.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^9: Make program used by Perl in windows by Anonymous Monk on May 02, 2012 at 09:39 UTC
Me too, I completely understand and I agree :) Even though it recently took me a bit to find makemaker overrides dmake MAXLINELENGTH -- after I went through all the trouble of editing dmake config to add a larger limit, makemaker lowballed me, I still prefer makemaker, even though I hate makefiles :)	[reply]