No, you don't need to convince me. So far, you haven't shown the concrete use case at hand, nor convinced me of the abstract idea that there may be a use case. You seem to want to keep your use case to yourself, but are somehow prevented from saying so. I don't know why that is the case. It just confirms to me that without a concrete use case, discussing the use of heavy machinery does not make sense, as the costs and benefits cannot be made clear.

But then again, this was mostly for my idle curiosity, and thus not really important. It allowed me to revisit funny parts of the toolshed, and provided idle amusement for a few minutes, even though the promise of learning a new code situation did not come through.

-- you haven't shown the concrete use case at hand, nor convinced me of the abstract idea that there may be a use case.

Is *that* a requirement of this place in order to ask this question?

If not, why persist in asking it?

-- You seem to want to keep your use case to yourself,

Is that against the rules?

-- , discussing the use of heavy machinery

Do you see me make any request for discussion of the heavy machinery?

-- provided idle amusement for a few minutes,

Glad to have been of service.

-- You seem to want to keep your use case to yourself,

Yes. Is that so hard to respect?

I wish to keep it to myself, because I have no interest in having other people throw their opinions of what they think I should or should not do into the discussion. (fat chance.)

The question was clear and simple. The answer equally so. No room for prolonged discussion or heated debate. Just "how"? Like this. Done.

But there is always someone, or multiple somones, that feel the need to try and impose their views on life, the universe and everything, on everyone else.

And that was why this thread was started anonymously. But, there are always those around that can (mis)use their privileges to see through the sham of anonimity, and pop up to assert their opinion.

This subthread, as with the other subthreads of a similar ilk, are exactly what I wished to avoid by posting anonymously.

If you look back up to my first reply, I started it with

If you, as you claim, do have a real use case for Scope::Upper, I'm really interested in hearing about it.

This curiosity is my main drive, and I was hoping to find a real use case instead of some vague alludements.

I don't understand how the privilege to post a reply to your question can be considered misuse. But why do you think I would need it to see through the "sham of anonimity"?

I think the main conclusion to draw for you from this exchange is, that it is maybe not your nickname (or the user account you purport to represent), but your way of asking questions that provokes replies that you don't like. This may not be the answer you wanted, but in the end, neither of us got the answer we wanted in this thread.