I sold my Camels to afford thinkgeek.com's perl book set, and then it went to back order :( . So I'm Camel-less and can't use your nifty reference :( :( . However I do believe you, but I think my code still works it's just I didn't need to escape when I did. Thank you though :) .... :( but I'm still sad about my missing Camels :(