Ozymandias, what are you doing? Saying, "another way to do it is..." is one thing, but your contining claims that I am using "dangerous" and wrong techniques are totally ridiculous, and should be kept to yourself or at least researched before trying to discredit me.

No, it's not my box. Yes, I am the administrator of the box. Deleting the log files only deletes the default copy; it does not delete the other copy as I am the one that knows where the other data path ends, or that there is another data path. Lose access? Naw, that's what contracts are for.

As for the claim "the owner/admin sets the rules" that is false. As I already said, there is a contractual agreement that gives me rights to use the server for personal uses, similiar to the agreement you would get when you get a virtual host account with your ISP. And your stating that I "have no rights or privilages beyond what the admin grants" is ridiculous. I have the rights the contract grants, and if you are not party to that contract, you shouldn't be making these statements as if you know what you're talking about.

I am the admin, so contacting myself before firing up emacs would be silly.

Saying that I should search for an existing product when all is needed is a few lines of code is silly. That is like saying, if somebody breaks into your house, and you are worried they will come back in 5 minutes, order a security system. No, looking out the window is a better plan. Obviously I cannot prevent the person from accessing the files. They have root. What I can do, is be notified when those files are accessed, and scare them into staying out in the future.

As for your claim that what I did is the one thing I shouldn't have done, you should take your religious BS to a church. There is no "intruder," there is a person who was copying files. Being the owner of the box, this person is going to continue to have access to the server, and is going to continue to have root access, regardless of myself being the administrator. There are times in life where all that is needed is an effective deterent, a barking dog. This is one of those times. If I want to pursue a legal route, I already have those logs already.

In conclusion, have fun with your Empire Building. I would think after past events, that you would just back the hell off instead of attacking me as soon I walk in the door, but obviously civility is beyond you. It is really a waste of your time, though. I'm not going to hang out, so there is no need for your little competition games. It has already been established that this site doesn't take it's name seriously, that the idea is to create something like slashdot, as opposed to trying to build an inclusive community. That being the case, I will treat it in the same manner; if I am really bored, or if I have something to share, or if I have a question for those more experienced, then I will come around. So, stop wasting your time on me, okay? It's just fine, it really is, for me to have different security needs, and to share my sollution with others. There realy isn't a need for you to spread FUD that there is only One True Way and that you will tell us what it is.

If you wanted to be helpfull, you could have pointed out the bug that causes a false alarm when the daily cron jobs are run...

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In reply to Formulaic Security Isn't Secure Anyway by Aighearach
in thread Emergency Sentry Robot by Aighearach

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