An individual doesn't win the football game: the collection of individuals does. Every individual plays a part in the win or loss of a game. Replacing some of those individuals with other individuals can alter the likelihood of a win pretty drastically. "Teamwork" is the doings of people in the particular, not in the aggregate. People have to work at it (thus the name) as individuals.

There is no centralized entity. I have experience of being part of a team in one of the most team-oriented circumstances in this life -- combat infantry. When you have a fireteam in combat, you should try telling any of the soldiers in that fireteam that the team itself is the important entity, and the individuals cease to be discrete, separate entities themselves, for purposes of "winning". Try telling that to the members of a Ranger fireteam, for instace, whose first rule of combat is that one never leaves a fallen comrade behind.

I don't mean to create some kind of "patrioticker than thou" argument here. I'm just raising the stakes of the team beyond that of a football team, because when lives are at stake the pseudophilosophical pop psychology goes out the window and people start recognizing the nit and grit of what's going on. Sure, a soldier may give his life, but he doesn't do so "for the team". He does it for an ideal and/or for the guy next to him. It doesn't get any more individual than that.

I think I'm more inclined to agree with wfsp's characterization of a team than yours, I'm afraid.

Yes, individuals win (American) football games, as long as you have eleven of them on the field at a time.

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In reply to Re^6: Catalyst team change by apotheon
in thread Catalyst team change by naChoZ

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