apl: Which means a union has zero power. Which means a union is useless. Which implies unions shouldn't exist.

Not at all. They should have as much power as they can maintain by being better and more worthwhile than other groups (organized or not) of workers.

samizdat: Until we take back our government, we will all continue to be screwed, whether from the "left" or from the "right".

apl: That's called an election. Otherwise, you're talking about eliminating the current Constitution.

While I agree that it may never happen without revolution, I'm not advocating one. I'm just saying that the Dems and GOPs have stacked the deck to favor themselves in many and varied and sometimes evil ways. I also acknowledge that they do it with the complacency (read: ignorant acceptance) of the possibility-challenged in our society.

My answer isn't politics. Politics in America is mostly a lost cause, in the present world, for the reason I've just stated. I work to help kids grow up smarter and more self-responsible, in the hopes that they will be able to set aside the mindless drivel they are 'taught' by all the high-powered one-way media and 'education' of our culture.

Don Wilde
"There's more than one level to any answer."

In reply to Re^3: Should Programmers Unionize? by samizdat
in thread Should Programmers Unionize? by Velaki

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