Shoot, I refactor as much as the next guy. I'm just wondering why people build such large edifices that they need a tool in order to manage it. Take Linux, one of the largest coding projects around. Or, Apache. I don't think they use IDEs to manage the codebase. That's because it's not a monolithic codebase. Things are broken out into black-box subsystems that can change and grow without affecting everything else. And, if you cannot identify the basic subsystems in an application, both those that exist now and those that are likely to exist, you are a bad programmer. Period.

My criteria for good software:
  1. Does it work?
  2. Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced?

In reply to Re^3: Steve Yegge on how to build IDEs and improve speed of dynamic languages by dragonchild
in thread Steve Yegge on how to build IDEs and improve speed of dynamic languages by zby

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