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If you're one of those people who rely on on last hour of cb to tell how long it's been since the last conversation, because, let's face it, the conversation isn't as continuous as it was ten years ago, then I'm sorry to report that it's going to be taken off effective within a few hours of this post. I'm not sure when it'll be back online. Hopefully ~36 hours, but a good chance it'll be down most of the week.

Longer version: I'm moving. Not very far, just about 6 or 7 minutes' drive away. The new house's networking will, if I'm really lucky, be set up tomorrow, but I haven't been that lucky with this build so far, and so I'm not really expecting the network termination to be completed tomorrow. (The female CAT5e terminations in the office and other places are done, but not the male termination points in the mechanical room where I could then plug them into the switch / router. Because that made any sense whatsoever.) I'm tearing down the electronics today in the hopes of moving it myself rather than relying on the movers to do it, but without networking, the PCs aren't going to do a whole heck of a lot.

And, yes, the whole CB stats / last hour of cb system is running on my home PC, as it has been doing for a long time already.

My goal is to get the systems running again asap. It's just that some of this is out of my hands.

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I just noticed that when I view the recent node Directory hierarchy for Strawberry Perl build, posted on 14th January, the Approval Nodelet is missing its Front-paged by line, even though the Recently Active Threads annotation for this node shows (F:1/2) which on mouse-over reveals Frontpaged by 'Corion'.

FWIW, the most recent Seekers of Perl Wisdom node (prior to this one) to have been Front-paged without an explicit Approval appears to be Best Perl REPL/Shell on Win (and Linux)?, posted on 9th January, for which the Approval Nodelet does contain a Front-paged by line.

Cheers,

I've been trying to approve "Old Programmer New To Perl" (#11110824) without success. The "Approve" box can be checked but, when the "moderate" button is clicked, the "Approve" box just becomes unchecked.

I successfully upvoted the OP but was still unable to "Approve".

When I click on my Message Inbox I am told there are 218 messages in my Inbox ... but they are not displayed. I have used this feature for years, it used to display my messages but seemed to stop doing so a while ago. It's possible I've mucked up my configuration somehow. Advice on how to troubleshoot welcome.

Did Perl Monks just have its twentieth birthday a week ago? I'm only basing that on vroom's user created date of November 11th 1999...

If that's true, Perl Monks should be excited because it can finally drink legally in the United States in just one more year. :-)

1. jdporter posts an indignity directed at me.
2. I retaliate in kind.
3. marto sends me a message my post was deleted.
4. I message marto whether he's going to delete the originating post.
5. He replies with a suggestion to "flag it appropriately".
6. I submit the originating post for deletion.
7. My submission is deleted.

Remove yourself from political thought, frustration from things gone by strict adherence to protocol and the overall 'set in my ways, so fsck everything else'.

Perlmonks to me is a safe place. A place where I've been able to ask questions or talk about numerous programming languages, mathematical equations, statistical analysis and things I never figured a fellow Perl programmer would understand.

Thing is, the Perl programmers here did understand.

I have been welcomed here for all of my technical life essentially, and I've done my best to reciprocate that back. I have respect and admiration for those who are for, and opposed to what I think. That's the premise of PM to me.

Everyone appears to want to divide PM into this or that. We don't do politics here; we are not divisive by nature, and we shouldn't behave as such.

As well-versed, experienced (possibly Open Source) programmers (some of us with Perl as our star language), inclusiveness is key. Whether that means allowing 'other' languages here or not is not for me to say. I will say though that I was accepted here as something, so were you, so if you're asking questions or answering them: "Where were you in life when you ran into Perlmonks. What did you acquire from the site? What did you learn from the people there?"

Pushing off those who ask questions unrelated is our business, and we've done it for years politely. Demanding and advocating a select subset of programmers based on language isn't our business.

-stevieb

The document The Path to Raku includes this:

Sites such as PerlMonks appear to be really Perl (aka Perl 5) focused, and could possible make that clear in their description, or change their description to specifically include Raku.

Although it's true that most of the nodes posted on PM are about Perl 5, several of the gods have made it clear on several occasions that Perl 6 / Raku posts are welcome. So this node is just to point out that references to "Raku" should probably be included in the PerlMonks description, although I'm not yet sure what the best way to do so is.

Also, I'm not sure if it's feasible to go back and change existing posts, but perhaps we should standardize a [raku] tag for post titles.

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I found myself on this page just now, and, as one does, went to upvote one of the nodes. Except -- there was no Vote button.

I checked that I was still logged in (there are monks who shall remain nameless that mention they get logged out ALL tHE TIME), but that wasn't the problem.

Thoughts?

Updated 2019-0815 @ 1052ET Thanks, the vote button has reappeared. Thanks everyone!

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