use Devel::Refcount qw/refcount/; my $x; our %h = (one=>'two'); { local %h = (three=>'four'); $x = \%h; print "$x ", refcount($x), "\n"; } print "$x ", refcount($x), "\n"; __END__ HASH(0x2fb246a) 2 HASH(0x2fb246a) 1