Re^5: Announcing The London Perl & Raku Workshop 2024 (LPW) (Perl Confs)

Hi Lee

First of all, do you prefer replies here, on blogs.perl.org or on telegram?

I'm writing here now to get people involved. (And I have to split it up in multiple replies)

Custody for recordings

I'd really like to contribute, but I'm usually involved in too many projects simultaneously to be of help. (Except pushing buttons at conferences and reminding speakers of the time ;-)

And my technical know-how of sound and video is really limited.

Outsourcing:

In 2012's YAPC-EU-2012 I was "only" responsible for hiring the video team and pushing them for weeks to complete their task. And honestly it was a PITA, even after paying 2k. Plus impatient community members who thought annoying me was way to speed things up.

Outsourcing can be a very good idea if you have a competent team to hire, but it's also a lot of work finding and managing them.

I can't imagine having such a team operating all over Europe. So each location would need to do it from scratch.

Tired & Retiring

You already did a tremendous job with the videos, not only producing them but also post-processing and uploading them.

You and Julien were additionally shouldering the LPW alone at a distance, restarting multiple things (finding venue, sponsors, etc)

It's no surprise you are (re)tired now, and I totally support you.

Obviously the bus factor is too small here and in no way sustainable.

I'm against burning out contributors of the community and overstretching resources.

I can only hope there will be some kind of wiki to transfer the know how involved and probably a slow phase out of your engagement and mentoring, such that bigger teams can handle the different tasks.

LPW-2025 ?

Don't know if it helps, but Having family member's in London I'd be happy to join again next year and to contribute talks. Even do some minor in-place orga things. ТА

This organisation of a successful LPW-2024 means most of the hard problems are already solved. Successors just need to follow the footsteps.

I can only hope a team of Londoners will consolidate where key players "divide and conquer" the different tasks involved.

From my experience you need at least three reliable persons as a hard core, to have each other's back.

I'd think, a zoom meeting once per month and some kind of written communication platform should be enough to get them started. Are perlmongers still active there?

You already explained all factors involved in your video, which is great.

(But again, just ideas, who am I to get involved. =)

Sound Quality

I was playing around with Imaging AI this week end and I see different online tools advertised for improving speech quality.

I'm sure you had not the time trying them out?

If not I'd like to give it a shot with my own talk, to see if it's any good.

Cheers Rolf
_{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)

see Wikisyntax for the Monastery}

А) I'm also happily extending the offer to all French or Spanish language conferences ever to happen...

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Re^6: Announcing The London Perl & Raku Workshop 2024 (LPW) (Perl Confs) by leej (Monk) on Nov 25, 2024 at 20:51 UTC
> First of all, do you prefer replies here, on blogs.perl.org or on telegram? Honestly, probably plain old email. It's exhausting trying to follow the fractured social media landscape these days. I suppose this does have better visibility however > Outsourcing can be a very good idea if you have a competent team to hire, but it's also a lot of work finding and managing them. Finding a competent team is easy, it's the cost that is the issue. Think mutiple thousands of Euros per event. That's why we haven't ever gone that route, we simply can't afford it. The bigger conferences have gone this route, and they spend more on just the recording than we do on our entire event > I can only hope there will be some kind of wiki to transfer the know how involved and probably a slow phase out of your engagement and mentoring, such that bigger teams can handle the different tasks. I'm happy to give anyone who is interested in organising full access to the previous ACT repos, Trello boards (which have a lot of information), documentation I have (which is little, but I can turn my talk into something workable), email contacts for venues, advice, help, and so on. > I'd think, a zoom meeting once per month and some kind of written communication platform should be enough to get them started. Are perlmongers still active there? Also happy to be part of some early calls, I'm not going to take the lead though. london.pm is a bit of an abstract concept these days. There are monthly socials, but not much beyond that. > I was playing around with Imaging AI this week end and I see different online tools advertised for improving speech quality. I'm sure you had not the time trying them out? If not I'd like to give it a shot with my own talk, to see if it's any good. Please try and let me know how it goes. You'll probably want the original recording(s) as the source so send me an email and I'll transfer one or two to you. I did try some of Final Cut Pro's audio improvement tools (isolate voice, and remove background noise) which helped, but if there's some other tool that can do a better job that would be super.	[reply]

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Re^6: Announcing The London Perl & Raku Workshop 2024 (LPW) (Perl Confs)
by leej (Monk) on Nov 25, 2024 at 20:51 UTC

> First of all, do you prefer replies here, on blogs.perl.org or on telegram?

Honestly, probably plain old email. It's exhausting trying to follow the fractured social media landscape these days. I suppose this does have better visibility however

> Outsourcing can be a very good idea if you have a competent team to hire, but it's also a lot of work finding and managing them.

Finding a competent team is easy, it's the cost that is the issue. Think mutiple thousands of Euros per event. That's why we haven't ever gone that route, we simply can't afford it. The bigger conferences have gone this route, and they spend more on just the recording than we do on our entire event

> I can only hope there will be some kind of wiki to transfer the know how involved and probably a slow phase out of your engagement and mentoring, such that bigger teams can handle the different tasks.

I'm happy to give anyone who is interested in organising full access to the previous ACT repos, Trello boards (which have a *lot* of information), documentation I have (which is little, but I can turn my talk into something workable), email contacts for venues, advice, help, and so on.

> I'd think, a zoom meeting once per month and some kind of written communication platform should be enough to get them started. Are perlmongers still active there?

Also happy to be part of some early calls, I'm not going to take the lead though. london.pm is a bit of an abstract concept these days. There are monthly socials, but not much beyond that.

> I was playing around with Imaging AI this week end and I see different online tools advertised for improving speech quality. I'm sure you had not the time trying them out? If not I'd like to give it a shot with my own talk, to see if it's any good.

Please try and let me know how it goes. You'll probably want the original recording(s) as the source so send me an email and I'll transfer one or two to you. I did try some of Final Cut Pro's audio improvement tools (isolate voice, and remove background noise) which helped, but if there's some other tool that can do a better job that would be super.

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