Re: Can Perl do anything Java can do?

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Re^2: Can Perl do anything Java can do? by Theodore (Friar) on Jul 20, 2017 at 10:00 UTC
Did anyone ever tried writing a JVM using Perl? That would be fun, for various values of "fun". :-P	[reply]
Re^3: Can Perl do anything Java can do? by cavac (Prior) on Jul 20, 2017 at 12:45 UTC
I don't think anyone did the full on thing. But i found a few interesting dists on CPAN: Alien::Jerl - micro perl running on JVM (MIPS Interpreter) Java::Import - Use Java classes in Perl Inline::Java - Write Perl classes in Java. So it turns out, you actually can do in Perl everything you can do in Java, because you can just load the Java code into the perl interpreter. "For me, programming in Perl is like my cooking. The result may not always taste nice, but it's quick, painless and it get's food on the table."	[reply]
Re^2: Can Perl do anything Java can do? by stonecolddevin (Parson) on Jul 19, 2017 at 18:18 UTC
What is so slow about the modern JVM? Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax, you're god damn right I'm living in the fucking past	[reply]
Re^3: Can Perl do anything Java can do? by shmem (Chancellor) on Jul 19, 2017 at 20:07 UTC
What is so slow about the modern JVM? Erm... its slowness? - Back in the 90s of the past century, at a customers site we replaced two blue closet-sized boxes proudly carrying three letters with a small pizza box running HP-UX which did all the work and cycles to spare. My workstation at that time was a SPARCstation ELC with 50MHz CPU clock and 48MB RAM. I had perl 4 patchlevel 36 on it, and later the first instance of perl5. Today I am carrying a so-called SmartPhone with me which in terms of CPU speed and memory could replace 14 of those pizza boxes. Alas, although it runs a Linux kernel and sports a (presumably) modern JVM, opening my phone rolodex (its Java) sometimes takes about 10 times the time to be responsive compared to the rolodex application I developed on my ancient ELC with perl. That's incredibly slow. Java is, more than anything else, bloat. perl -le'print map{pack c,($-++?1:13)+ord}split//,ESEL'	[reply]
Re^4: Can Perl do anything Java can do? by stonecolddevin (Parson) on Jul 19, 2017 at 22:11 UTC
This seems like a really poor analogy, it's all anecdotal. On top of that, Android isn't really a pillar of JVM accomplishment. It's well know that it's bloated and a nightmare to work with on the dev side, which inevitably percolates up to the user experience. What kind of Java code are you looking at that's "bloated"? Java has improved tremendously in the past 5-10 years in all aspects. There are plenty of things people can bitch about but overall, it's a clean, solid platform to develop on. Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax, you're god damn right I'm living in the fucking past	[reply]
Re^5: Can Perl do anything Java can do? by shmem (Chancellor) on Jul 21, 2017 at 10:46 UTC
Re^6: Can Perl do anything Java can do? by stonecolddevin (Parson) on Jul 21, 2017 at 17:34 UTC