Dear monks, I'm puzzled. I was trying to find out the answer to the following question : does a copy of a hash comes in the same order as the original ? ( I know that the same hash should come in a random order between executions). So I wrote this tiny script :

#!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; use Data::Dumper; my %t=qw( a A b B c C d D e E f F ); print Dumper \%t; print "***************\n"

Then I found something really weird : on a machine (Linux Mandrake 9.2), the order of %t is different each time you run the script. BUT on two other machine running RedHat 8.0 and RedHat ES 4, the hash is exactly the same every time!

Then I modified slightly the script :

#!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; use Data::Dumper; my %t=qw( a A b B c C d D e E f F ); my %l=%t; print Dumper \%t; print Dumper \%l; print "***************\n"

There it goes worse : ont the Mandrake machine, the two hashes %t and %l come sometimes in the same order, but not always :

$VAR1 = { 'c' => 'C', 'e' => 'E', 'd' => 'D', 'a' => 'A', 'f' => 'F', 'b' => 'B' }; $VAR1 = { 'c' => 'C', 'e' => 'E', 'd' => 'D', 'a' => 'A', 'f' => 'F', 'b' => 'B' }; *************** $VAR1 = { 'd' => 'D', 'a' => 'A', 'f' => 'F', 'c' => 'C', 'b' => 'B', 'e' => 'E' }; $VAR1 = { 'a' => 'A', 'd' => 'D', 'f' => 'F', 'b' => 'B', 'c' => 'C', 'e' => 'E' };

On the RedHat systems, they come ALWAYS the same! The perl versions are all different : MDK 9.2 has Perl 5.8.3, RH 8.0 perl 5.8.0, and RHES 5.8.5.

I've also tested the scripts on a Fedora Core 4 machine : the two copies of a hash comes in a different order, but always the same from a run to another....

I'd like to understand : how does RH obtains such a weird result ? Isn't this supposed to be a bug, apparently introduced deliberately by RedHat in their perl binaries ? Isn't it supposed to be a security hole ? What is the correct behaviour ?

update: I've tried on several machines, running Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu and Mac OS X, running the following snippet :

perl -e 'my %t=qw(a A b B c C d D e E); print join("", %t) . "\n"'

The 2 slackware, the 2 debian Sarge and the Ubuntu machine show the same behaviour : they always give the same result :

eEcCaAbBdD
The Mac OS X gives a different result each run. So now, it looks like the usual way isn't what I thought it to be... Is the Perl documentation out of sync, or is there something fishy in most Linux distros out there?


In reply to Weird hash order behaviour on several RedHat releases. by wazoox

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