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Do you have compiler? Which one?

Usually extensions with XS are built with MSVC and nmake (not make)

However I can share my own Tcl.dll that is used fom ActiveState's Perl 5.8.4 and ActiveState's Tcl at http://www.vkonovalov.ru/unicode/Tcl.dll
this file should be copied into (you-perl-path)/site/lib/auto/Tcl
Tcl.pm should be in (you-perl-path)/site/lib
Tcl::Tk is pure-perl so it will be easier to install, but just copying Tk.pm into (you-perl-path)/site/lib/Tcl/

Still, I can help you building your own binaries.

About low coverage of Tcl::Tk - keep in mind this is only a light bridge module between Perl and Tcl/Tk (both has huge couverages...)
However Tcl::Tk has its own support list, so your problems written to it will be answered quickly.
Write to http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=40170 or subscribe there...

Best regards,
Courage, the Cowardly Dog

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Re^6: Tk Drag and Drop Between Applications
by Ardemus (Beadle) on Dec 16, 2004 at 21:42 UTC
    Thanks for all your help Courage. I followed your instructions but I get these errors when I run the widget demo from Tcl::Tk...

    Window

     perl.exe - Unable To Locate Component
The application has failed to start beceause tcl85.dll was not found. 
+ Re-installing the applicaion may fix this problem.

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    Console

    C:\DOCUME~1\nburger\Desktop\PERL&T~1\Tcl-Tk-0.84\tk-demos>perl widget
Can't load 'c:/Perl/site/lib/auto/Tcl/Tcl.dll' for module Tcl: load_fi
+le:The specified module could not be found at c:/Perl/lib/Dyna Loader
+.pm line 230.
 at c:/Perl/site/lib/Tcl/Tk.pm line 4
Compilation failed in require at c:/Perl/site/lib/Tcl/Tk.pm line 4.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at c:/Perl/site/lib/Tcl/Tk.pm line 4
+.
Compilation failed in require at widget line 5.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at widget line 5.

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    I've double checked the location of the dll and it matches what the console says is missing. However, the pop-up is asking for a different dll, which I don't have. I'll check out the group that you recommended. Thanks again.
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      looks like I built Tcl.xs w/out Tcl stubs and it found tcl85.lib at that time. sorry
      Please try a bit different tcl.dll - from http://www.vkonovalov.ru/unicode/84/Tcl.dll

      BTW for my own application I tend to built entire tcl/tk into one large single dll, and will share that on the web afterwards...

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        Thanks for the second dll. Unfortunately, it looks like it was from 0.81 (a prior build): 
        C:\DOCUME~1\nburger\Desktop\PERL&T~1\Tcl-Tk-0.84\tk-demos>perl widget
Tcl object version 0.81 does not match bootstrap parameter 0.84 at c:/
+Perl/lib/DynaLoader.pm line 253.
Compilation failed in require at c:/Perl/site/lib/Tcl/Tk.pm line 4.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at c:/Perl/site/lib/Tcl/Tk.pm line 4
+.
Compilation failed in require at widget line 5.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at widget line 5.

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Re^6: Tk Drag and Drop Between Applications
by Ardemus (Beadle) on Dec 16, 2004 at 21:51 UTC
    Regarding building my own binaries. I haven't added anything to my install. I haven't ever built a binary.

    First I tried adding through Activestate's PPM. They don't have these two. I've tried CPAN's auto install: "perl -MCPAN -e shell", but that errors out because it can't find 'test'. And trying the basic makefile.pl file and make give me the errors listed above.

    Note perl -V:make points to nmake, but nmake and dmake aren't in the path on my system, nor are they in my perl directory.

    I haven't really RTFM'ed on building binaries. So, I'll start down that road.

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      it is quite trivial to say, but in order to build C you need C compiler.

      ActiveState's binaries are built with MSVC. Most supported way for Win32 nowadays.

      Best regards,
      Courage, the Cowardly Dog

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        Courage, Thanks, I'll see if I can find MSVC (is the MS Visual C?). I downloaded and installed nmake according to this site:

        http://johnbokma.com/perl/make-for-windows.html

        But I get fatal errors with that too:

        C:\DOCUME~1\nburger\Desktop\PERL&T~1\Tcl-0.84>nmake

Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility   Version 1.50
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp 1988-94. All rights reserved.

        cl -c  -IC:/Tcl/include  -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 
+-DWIN32 -D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAVE_DES_FCRYPT -DNO_HASH_SEE
D -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT -DPERL_IMPLICIT_SYS -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVC
+RT_READFIX -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1    -DVERSION=\"0.84\"  -DXS_VE
RSION=\"0.84\"  "-IC:\Perl\lib\CORE"   Tcl.c
'cl' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' : return code
+ '0x1'
Stop.

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        P.S. Although it's trivial to know that you need a compiler to compile something, I would say that it's not trivial to know what compilers will work and if I already had one installed ;) Make is trying, and perl -V:Make seems to indicate that nmake is being used (even though I couldn't find it). In any case, I really appreciate your help, because figuring this stuff out is quite a project for me.

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