True. Although in my (limited) experience, I've found that generally, teaching the people who do design anything to do with languages, mini, or not, seems to be a crap shoot. Either they can grasp the concept, or they can't.

If they can, mason, or template toolkit, or any other comes easy enough. They can include a header/footer, call another block of code in a loop, without having to be 'programmers', after a simple example or two.

If they cannot, it doesn't seem to matter if the template is as simple as:

<title>%%title%%</title>
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they can't seem to understand that we'll put the proper value there.