in reply to Thread on Joel on software forum : "I hate Perl programmers."

I can't see anything good or productive coming from posting this. What do you want to hear? that some dork's opinion doesn't matter?

Actually, answer something first. Why are you posting this? What are you going to get out of this? There are far too many flames already and personal style/legibility has been discussed at length.

Finally, I suggest you retitle the node. It's misleading. Joel Spolsky didn't write that rant.

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Re^2: Joel on software: "I hate Perl programmers." - thread.
by techcode (Hermit) on Jun 16, 2005 at 11:20 UTC
    I've updated the title - didnt realised it's potentialy misleading untill you folks pointed that out. Guess it's the way you look at it(TMTOWTDI).

    - Why are you posting this?
    It got me interested and wanted to hear someones opinion on it.

    - What are you going to get out of this?
    Looks like only --'s :)
    OK, seriosly. I didnt expected anything except to hear what some people think about few of things that were pointed out.

    As I wrote, I dont like the way guy wrote it nor I liked everything that he wrote. But I must say that he and others (others were more "constructive") pointed out few things that I doo agree with.

      It got me interested and wanted to hear someones opinion on it.
      Maybe you should have just pointed it out in the Chatterbox instead. I have had to deal with some really bad Perl code in the past written by folks who didn't understand Perl in the least, and while the example is apparently by someone who does understand Perl, the fact is ... Perl is hard. I coded Perl for 2 years before i even considered myself a decent Perl programmer, and then i came to the Monastery. I'm still decent at best, IMHO -- but, as one commenter to that cantankerously crass commentary wrote:

      Only the top 1% of programmers appreciate perl.

      This also clears up the recent confusion about who is a top 1% programmer.

      Now, that's clearly a hyperbole as well, but there is a lot to be gleamed from that statement -- it takes a lot of discpline to code Perl in a manner that is readable and maintainable by others. Perl loads the gun, cocks it, and aims it at your foot. But it is ultimately you who pulls the trigger.

      OK, seriosly. I didnt expected anything except to hear what some people think about few of things that were pointed out
      ? Did you miss the comment by the same author (Lies of Society) that said:

      Here's the problem [with Perlmonks]. All posts (nodes) can be upvoted or downvoted by anyone who's attained user level 2 (takes a few days, maybe a few weeks). They don't have to say why they downvoted--what their justification is--and there's no form of metamoderation like at Slashdot. Your reputation (XP), the thing that lets you move up to other user levels and gain new privileges, is impacted when you're downvoted...
      Surely if you had read that then you would expect to be downvoted by posting such a negative comment here at the Monastery. <sarcasm>After all, we are a bunch of cowards who participate in group think and ostracize any and all who do not adhere to our doctrine!</sarcasm> Well, i'll tell you why i downvoted you. First, you could have asked this in the chatterbox. Second, even if you did chose to post it, you didn't have to post the contents. Now, anyone who knows me personally knows that i swear like a sailor on a regular basis. So many expletives spew from my mouth on a daily basis, but even i think this kind of language is not necessary here at the Monastery. A simple link to the article would have sufficed. And the third reason i downvoted? Well, because you didn't point out which points you thought were good. You didn't point out which responses you thought were good. You just posted the rant without adding any value of your own.

      jeffa

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      OK, seriosly. I didnt expected anything except to hear what some people think about few of things that were pointed out.
      And what things do you think he "pointed out"? That bad programmers can write bad code? Hardly a ground breaking observation. That he hates various members of the perl community? Well, that's slightly more original, but lacking any credible documentation, so we can probably ignore it. After that, what is left that he points out?

      To me the entire thing reads more like a joke. A deliberate troll trying to get responses.