if my dad had tried to convince me to program, I probably wouldn't program now.

Yeah, and I can relate to that, because my Dad tried to get me into programming when I was younger than my step-son is now, and I wasn't sure it was something I wanted to do. However, I did do a little tinkering, and once the gang I hung out with started to get into it as well, that's when I really got interested in it.

Maybe he'll get into a group that does programming and we'll go from there. Thanks for the feedback.