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Java has "primitive types" that cannot be subclassed nor extended.

Smalltalk has no such artificial distinction.

Java proponents claim that you must have primitive types to get decent performance. Odd, because Sun's Java VM itself is primarily written in Self, which has no primitive types (in fact, it doesn't even have classes!).

-- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker

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Java and Self (Was "Obviously, You Will Need a Java Course...")
by IlyaM (Parson) on Nov 29, 2001 at 03:30 UTC
    You have triggered my curiousity with statement that Java was written in Self. I've tried to find anything about it but I could not (I tried several different queries on google but 'self' and 'java' attracts too much irrelevant web sites). Can you point me to the source of this information?
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      Amusingly, you can find out more about Self at this link, which is about the "The Merlin Object-Oriented System", an OS written in Self. You can find links to more information about the Self language at the bottom of the page.

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      Ovid

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        I found some links about Self including Sun's page. It seems that Self indeed affected Java developement. But I could not find any evidence that Sun's Java VM itself is primarily written in Self.
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