Hi guys what do you think the best age is for a kid to start to learn how to make programs in any language and also what do you think the best first language is?

That depends on the kid, and what you consider "making programs". As long as the kid has short attention spans, there's little point in teaching it programming. And it helps if the kid can read and write first.

As for first languages, I'd start with a language with a small, and fairly rigid and consistent syntax. Definitely not Perl, for the same reason you don't use Shakespeare to teach someone how to read.