Dave & chromatic, will you please continue to put up with the (perhaps ignorant) points-of-view of myself and BrowserUK? Will you please not give up on us and the possibility of a better Perl 5 for everybody, even if not in the sense of a super-fast runtime I espouse? Will you please use your powers to guide us and help us avoid traps that are obvious to only you?

PS - I really do think that the refactoring required for Perl5-on-LLVM will benefit the Perl core developers at the very least, even if we fall short of the blinding speed I hope to achieve.

First, off: I am not going to discuss the issue further on perlmonks. The perl5-porters mailing list is the proper place to discuss improvements to the perl core, and where it's easiest to follow discussions and actually have a serious number of "core-capable" people follow the discussion.

Second, I have no particular interest in this "perl on LLVM but not really" project, as I have not been convinced of its benefits. I might respond to the occasional question on p5p, but am not going to devote any significant amount of time to helping or mentoring people. My time is currently already fully taken up with trying to make perl better.

Whether LLVM will benefit the Perl core developers is highly debatable. I think in the main it's just going to add another layer of complexity to an already terribly complex system.

Dave