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in thread Camel vs Llama for a newbie

I've read Object Oriented Perl, and Data Munging with Perl, and a number of non-ORA other books. Personally, while I'm sure that all these authors are an excellent programmers, their books tended to be pedantic and (I felt) didn't add very much to the 3rd ed. Camel's treatment of whichever subject.

Effective Perl Programming was a delightful surprise. But, it still didn't add a huge amount to my personal knowledge. Programming Perls was the same way.

If you want to learn to program, take a course.

If you want to learn the language of Perl, read the Camel book, then hang out on PM.

If you want to learn how to program well, it doesn't matter how many Perl books you read because you will still have a myopic view of programming. Read Code Complete and The Pragmatic Programmer for that knowledge.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Camel vs Llama for a newbie
by davorg (Chancellor) on Sep 07, 2001 at 20:13 UTC
      I read it all the way through ... twice. The reason for twice was that I was sure I missed something the first time through. But, I hadn't.

      It's been a few months since I read it, but I remember reading it and thinking "Ummm ... Duh!" to pretty much every concept Conway put forth. If you want, I can go through the TOC and say why I felt that his treatment of the topic wasn't as good as Camel + PM ...

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      We are the carpenters and bricklayers of the Information Age.

      Don't go borrowing trouble. For programmers, this means Worry only about what you need to implement.

        Of course, *several* people on PM did glean quite a bit from Object Oriented Perl, so it's not really a fair assessment. :)