in reply to Re^3: [OT] gay marriage controversy (How the heck did we get here?)
in thread When is it time to stop posting to CPAN?

> why is government oversight of contracts useful?

Far reaching legal implications like tax laws, immigration laws, ... etc

> there's no government registrar required to witness it,

Who else should do the registration? Facebook?

Cheers Rolf
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Re^5: [OT] gay marriage controversy (How the heck did we get here?)
by tobyink (Canon) on Oct 17, 2020 at 13:49 UTC

    So scrap any tax benefits of marriage. Why on Earth should the tax man care about whether a couple who live together are married or not? That's just weird and ought to be totally irrelevant to calculating how much money you should be contributing towards the running of the state — it doesn't affect how many state resources you use, nor does it affect your earning capability. If couples living together use fewer state resources (like only needing one box of recycling collecting rather than two separate ones) and it's a big enough saving that they deserve a tax cut, then they should get one regardless of whether they're married, and regardless of whether they're romantically or sexually involved with each other because none of that ought to be relevant.

    Scrap any immigration laws surrounding marriage. There's not really any good reason for them to exist, and immigration authorities don't trust marriage contracts anyway. When someone wants to move their foreign spouse into a country, you often hear about them quizzing the couple on "which side of the bed does she sleep on?" and "how does he take his coffee?" (orally, of course!) so it's already the relationship between the people that matters, and not whether they have the right paperwork. So drop the pretence.

    Why must anybody do the registration?

      > So scrap any tax benefits of marriage.

      I agree. Tax benefits should be restricted to parents.

      > Scrap any immigration laws surrounding marriage.

      I disagree. For instance the closed borders during the corona shutdown showed that such a certificate helped reuniting couples.

      Unmarried couples suffered.

      Cheers Rolf
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        "Unmarried couples suffered."

        Isn't think an argument in favour of levelling the playing field by not taking a marriage certificate or lack thereof into account in immigration decisions?