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And where do you draw the line between ORM and SQL abstraction?
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Re^4: Terminology: Is DBIx::Class an ORM?
by LanX (Saint) on Jun 04, 2021 at 13:02 UTC
    OO and relational algebra are very different paradigms.

    An ORM will force the class structure onto the RDB-schema.

    It's only using a subset of SQL and can be mapped back 1-to-1 to an object model (of the particular host language, here Perl).

    It's like a amputated creole, speaking English words with Latin grammar. But without the possibility to introduce new Latin particles to express the new grammar, forcing you to use costly workarounds.°

    E.G. there is no "inheritance" in SQL.

    An SQL-Abstraction attempts to express all or most of the SQL-Space inside the host language, like with a query builder.

    It's effectively just a new SQL dialect, attempting to map 1-to-1 onto other dialects (like LIMIT vs TOP )

    My impression is/was that DBIC attempts to have the best of both worlds, which also explains it's complexity.

    For a long read why many people despise ORMs you may want to have a look at

    (I'll skip the first 6 pages about US-Vietnam-War though. :)

    This blog-entry had a heavy impact and was often discussed in both directions, you might want to google the responses...

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

    update

    swapped "Chinese" with "Latin" for claritas in metaphora ;-)

    °) or is it rather speaking Latin with English grammar? :)