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in thread Level Proposal

G'day harangzsolt33,

"I recently became a "Hermit," ..."

Congratulations on reaching level 10.

"... and I am not sure what this means."

I'm guessing you visited "Voting/Experience System", found the "Hermit" link and followed that to "The Hermitage" page. On that basis, you already have some understanding of these levels; there's some more information on the "Levels of Monks" page.

"I clicked on this link https://perlmonks.com/?node=The Hermitage and it's empty. Is this page empty on purpose or by mistake? "

Firstly, please don't use absolute URLs. See "What shortcuts can I use for linking to other information?" (the All Links Within PerlMonks Should Be Relative section near the bottom) for the reason behind this. A better choice would've been [id://1217124] which renders as an appropriate relative link: "The Hermitage".

When I followed your posted link (which left me logged off as "Anonymous Monk") I saw:

You don't have sufficient permission to view this node.

When I followed the "Hermit" link in "Voting/Experience System" (which left me logged on) I saw:

Info for Hermits (and above) only

So, as you're a "Hermit", and I'm "above", we both should have seen the "Info".

The page isn't empty; but it's clearly incomplete. I suggest you raise this as an issue in "Perl Monks Discussion".

Update (clarification): My statement of "clearly incomplete" could be wrong. It's possible that the condition for viewing the "Info" is incorrect; or maybe there's some other problem. Regardless, something is definitely wrong and should be fixed.

— Ken

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Re^4: Level Proposal
by LanX (Saint) on Oct 29, 2022 at 10:10 UTC
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      G'day Rolf,

      My aim was not to enumerate all of the better choices; but rather, as stated, to provide a (singular) "better choice". The main thrust of that paragraph was absolute vs. relative links.

      Years ago, on a number of occasions, I fell afoul of using [node_name] due to some conflict; e.g. a SoPW page and a Monk's username shared the same "node_name". Since then, I've preferred links which contain a "node_id"; this makes the link unique and I don't have to spend any time checking for, and possibly making adjustments to handle, conflicts.

      I will often use both a "node_id" and a "node_name"; e.g. [id://node_id|node_name]. Examples include:

      • wanting a shorter version of the full name (e.g. [id://1177642|SSCCE]);
      • honouring a Monk's signature name (e.g. [id://708738|Rolf] used above);
      • and so on.

      For some years, replies have included a [id://node_id] text; this makes it very easy (via copy-paste) to generate content like:

      Refer to my [id://some_id|first] and [id://other_id|third] responses.

      There are many ways to provide a link. "What shortcuts can I use for linking to other information?" has details. Here's some examples:

      I wouldn't consider [The Hermitage] to be the "second best choice". I'd rank all of those containing a "node_id" as superior.

      — Ken

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        > I wouldn't consider The Hermitage to be the "second best choice". I'd rank all of those containing a "node_id" as superior.

        Semantics ... that depends how one groups and counts. All using node_id are the best choice for me, for the same reasons.

        But often you need to reference a node by name without wanting to look up the ID.

        Hence one types SSCCE or kcott - i.e. [SSCCE] or [kcott] - because experience showed it's unique.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the 𐍀𐌴𐍂𐌻 Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        edit

        I have to admit that [link://...] is irritating me ... at least it doesn't seem to be documented in What shortcuts can I use for linking to other information?

        update

        ok... according to handlelinks settings it's just an alias to [href://...]

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Re^4: Level Proposal
by erzuuli (Cannon) on Oct 30, 2022 at 17:19 UTC
    something is definitely wrong and should be fixed.

    The page used to show some info, but it got removed. So I have added a parenthetical note that there is no information at this time.

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