This one day conference was a great success

... bad sadly risking to stay a one-day-wonder.

After a hiatus since the pandemic it immediately drew 120 attendants and was considerably bigger than the American YAPC.

Mind you:

• The original organizer were not available anymore,
• LPW has no legal framework or bank account,
• there was no affordable venue available
• the whole event ist free for all participants

Now it's worth noting that for many years already he's based in Switzerland and never even lived in London.

Julien, who I first met at the GPW in Hanover, where he was one of the organizers, is not even British.

Organizing such an event, at a distance with almost nothing to built on is a huge feat.

Mind you, the Swiss Perl Society had to provide their bank account for the sponsors.

Lee already announced that he won't do it again next year and was asking for locals to help.

Obviously there are more of them willing to attend than to help.

So far nothing surprising.

What's really getting me emotional ...

...is that some toxic guy I've never heard of with a defunct webpage, called the recordings "a waste of storage space" in the comment section.

Without getting a reply.

And Lee, who had even more work after the workshop not only editing and uploading the recordings, but also trying to safe the sound quality took the bait and announced he'll stop doing recordings for our workshops.

Great!

Sadly that's the power balance of social media, asymmetric warfare to kill all ambitions.

Anyway Lee & Julien, thanks a lot making this happen!!! ❤️

I just posted a comment over there with a link to your comment here. However, I think it's very probable that MT accepted mine only accidentally ;-)

Thanks

> However, I think it's very probable that MT accepted mine only accidentally ;-)

Probably my cookie settings, I tend to forbid everything by default.

After registration I couldn't make it work on my mobile because the confirmation link was rejected.

And had no time trying it out on my laptop, will most likely need to create a second account.

Cheers Rolf
_{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
see Wikisyntax for the Monastery}

I hardly ever frequent Youtube but even so still hear frequently how troll-laden the comments are (for anything posted there). If one cannot ignore the comments it might be better to host the videos elsewhere and just disallow commenting at all.

But video is expensive so someone would have to foot the bill. Perhaps this is something TPF could do?

If push comes to shove, I would rather LPW continue without video recordings than the whole event just stop.

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> I hardly ever frequent Youtube but even so still hear frequently how troll-laden the comments are (for anything posted there). If one cannot ignore the comments it might be better to host the videos elsewhere and just disallow commenting at all.

As LanX said - the comment appeared on the bpo post. We have had some comments on the YouTube videos, like this one. Unfortunately it seems most people are happy to assume incompetence in us rather than thinking it might be technical issues beyond our control.

But TBH these aren't the straws the broke the camel's back (to use an appropriate idiom), it was more that we bought new wireless microphones this year but then had other problems with the equipment. After 9 years of recording Perl/Raku events I'm a little burned out on it so would like some other custodian for all of this. I will most likely record GPW next year, but I think then I'm done. A decade is a good run.

Also, I think it's indicative of the level we've raised to and the expectations we've set. People want recordings now, and want the quality to be high.

On YouTube comments - we do allow them on the workshop recordings as *most* comments we get are usually useful/important and valuable feedback to the speaker. I, of course, disable comments on my own personal channel as I inevitably get moronic stuff that isn't worth my time.

> But video is expensive so someone would have to foot the bill. Perhaps this is something TPF could do?

Perhaps donating all the equipment to them might make sense?

> If push comes to shove, I would rather LPW continue without video recordings than the whole event just stop.

No longer recording events would remove a massive organisational concern and significant time sink, so I have no problem doing that.

If people want an LPW next year then they need to start thinking about it. I explained that in my closing talk.

The comments were on blogs.perl.org.

As already linked

https://blogs.perl.org/users/lpw/2024/11/london-perl-raku-workshop-2024-recordings-thoughts.html

> than the whole event just stop.

I think that's up to London Perlmongers (or whoever is stepping forward) to decide and organize.

Lee gave a full talk about the organization involved which can be found on YouTube.

Cheers Rolf
_{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
see Wikisyntax for the Monastery}