Thanks

> However, I think it's very probable that MT accepted mine only accidentally ;-)

Probably my cookie settings, I tend to forbid everything by default.

After registration I couldn't make it work on my mobile because the confirmation link was rejected.

And had no time trying it out on my laptop, will most likely need to create a second account.

Cheers Rolf
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I hardly ever frequent Youtube but even so still hear frequently how troll-laden the comments are (for anything posted there). If one cannot ignore the comments it might be better to host the videos elsewhere and just disallow commenting at all.

But video is expensive so someone would have to foot the bill. Perhaps this is something TPF could do?

If push comes to shove, I would rather LPW continue without video recordings than the whole event just stop.

> I hardly ever frequent Youtube but even so still hear frequently how troll-laden the comments are (for anything posted there). If one cannot ignore the comments it might be better to host the videos elsewhere and just disallow commenting at all.

As LanX said - the comment appeared on the bpo post. We have had some comments on the YouTube videos, like this one. Unfortunately it seems most people are happy to assume incompetence in us rather than thinking it might be technical issues beyond our control.

But TBH these aren't the straws the broke the camel's back (to use an appropriate idiom), it was more that we bought new wireless microphones this year but then had other problems with the equipment. After 9 years of recording Perl/Raku events I'm a little burned out on it so would like some other custodian for all of this. I will most likely record GPW next year, but I think then I'm done. A decade is a good run.

Also, I think it's indicative of the level we've raised to and the expectations we've set. People want recordings now, and want the quality to be high.

On YouTube comments - we do allow them on the workshop recordings as *most* comments we get are usually useful/important and valuable feedback to the speaker. I, of course, disable comments on my own personal channel as I inevitably get moronic stuff that isn't worth my time.

> But video is expensive so someone would have to foot the bill. Perhaps this is something TPF could do?

Perhaps donating all the equipment to them might make sense?

> If push comes to shove, I would rather LPW continue without video recordings than the whole event just stop.

No longer recording events would remove a massive organisational concern and significant time sink, so I have no problem doing that.

If people want an LPW next year then they need to start thinking about it. I explained that in my closing talk.

Hi Lee

First of all, do you prefer replies here, on blogs.perl.org or on telegram?

I'm writing here now to get people involved. (And I have to split it up in multiple replies)

Custody for recordings

I'd really like to contribute, but I'm usually involved in too many projects simultaneously to be of help. (Except pushing buttons at conferences and reminding speakers of the time ;-)

And my technical know-how of sound and video is really limited.

Outsourcing:

In 2012's YAPC-EU-2012 I was "only" responsible for hiring the video team and pushing them for weeks to complete their task. And honestly it was a PITA, even after paying 2k. Plus impatient community members who thought annoying me was way to speed things up.

Outsourcing can be a very good idea if you have a competent team to hire, but it's also a lot of work finding and managing them.

I can't imagine having such a team operating all over Europe. So each location would need to do it from scratch.

Tired & Retiring

You already did a tremendous job with the videos, not only producing them but also post-processing and uploading them.

You and Julien were additionally shouldering the LPW alone at a distance, restarting multiple things (finding venue, sponsors, etc)

It's no surprise you are (re)tired now, and I totally support you.

Obviously the bus factor is too small here and in no way sustainable.

I'm against burning out contributors of the community and overstretching resources.

I can only hope there will be some kind of wiki to transfer the know how involved and probably a slow phase out of your engagement and mentoring, such that bigger teams can handle the different tasks.

LPW-2025 ?

Don't know if it helps, but Having family member's in London I'd be happy to join again next year and to contribute talks. Even do some minor in-place orga things. °

This organisation of a successful LPW-2024 means most of the hard problems are already solved. Successors just need to follow the footsteps.

I can only hope a team of Londoners will consolidate where key players "divide and conquer" the different tasks involved.

From my experience you need at least three reliable persons as a hard core, to have each other's back.

I'd think, a zoom meeting once per month and some kind of written communication platform should be enough to get them started. Are perlmongers still active there?

You already explained all factors involved in your video, which is great.

(But again, just ideas, who am I to get involved. =)

Sound Quality

I was playing around with Imaging AI this week end and I see different online tools advertised for improving speech quality.

I'm sure you had not the time trying them out?

If not I'd like to give it a shot with my own talk, to see if it's any good.

Cheers Rolf
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see Wikisyntax for the Monastery}

°) I'm also happily extending the offer to all French or Spanish language conferences ever to happen...

The comments were on blogs.perl.org.

As already linked

https://blogs.perl.org/users/lpw/2024/11/london-perl-raku-workshop-2024-recordings-thoughts.html

> than the whole event just stop.

I think that's up to London Perlmongers (or whoever is stepping forward) to decide and organize.

Lee gave a full talk about the organization involved which can be found on YouTube.

Cheers Rolf
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see Wikisyntax for the Monastery}

Sorry, I missed that the comments appeared on the blog post rather than the youtube video page itself. That's more disappointing - especially given that Lee already addressed the audio quality in the main post.

some toxic guy I've never heard of with a defunct webpage

I took a look. Given that it's a wordpress site and he's still managed to cock it up I think we can all safely disregard anything he might have to say about Perl-related matters.

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