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> I use Vim technically, but for the most part, my platform for developing Perl code has been intelliJ IDEA with the Camelcade plugin

Well that's the typical attitude, using vim key bindings in any IDE makes you a vim user? Sure!

For instance Frankfurt.pm has 4 self proclaimed vi users, only one is a real one.

I even witnessed one of them falling back on notepad++ and komodo because he wasn't able to install vim on windows.

(Doesn't stop them making jokes about emacs)

> Tried emacs a couple of times ...

evil-mode provides a decent vim (not vi) emulation.

Typically (I tested it on conferences) people can't tell the difference in terminal mode.

So, does using evil-mode make me now a vim user?

To be clear: My attitude towards vim is the same like towards Python, I like them and I see their advantages.

My disdain goes to the crowd who is bad mouthing others, without even being able to master the basics of "their" system.

The psychological process involved is obvious.

Cheers Rolf
(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
Je suis Charlie!

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Re^7: Perl Developer Survey 2017 results are available
by stevieb (Canon) on May 01, 2017 at 00:28 UTC

    I hope you don't think I was putting anything/anyone down. Definitely not; I believe wholeheartedly in using the right tool for the job. If you're familiar with X brand of screwdriver where I use Y brand, that's irrelevant if the job is done nonetheless.

    As far as vi is concerned, one could say that I'm a true vi user, as that's all I used for several (at least eight) years before I even started dabbling in things with vi keybinds, including Vim :)

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      Actually I'm thankful for your contribution, I will point to it in the future. ;)

      It highlights how comparing an editor like vi to an IDE like emacs doesn't make much sense, if the same proud vi users easily swap to real IDEs. =)

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)
      Je suis Charlie!

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        IDE's are a crutch. Just because YOU need one does not mean the rest of us do. Maybe if you spend more time USING Emacs instead of ranting about vim you'd be productive member of society, which you are not.
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