in reply to The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018

"Do those redirects work??"

https://github.com/metacpan/sco-redirect

Update: "Does FUD gleefully announcing the death of Perl and CPAN make the rounds??". for completeness, since confusion has already been demonstrated in the comments on noc announcement, cpan.org (linked above) isn't going anywhere, and already directs searches to Metacpan, has done for some time.

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Re^2: The CPAN Apocalypse: June 25, 2018
by usemodperl (Beadle) on Jun 20, 2018 at 15:19 UTC
    I've been deploying websites since the beginning and the cpan situation seems... odd.

    Why just toss such an ancient, functional and valuable URI (it's worth millions of dollars!)?

    Shouldn't it be the other way round, with whatever META means being replaced by SEARCH (in the url)?

    Meta doesn't even look like CPAN.

    Why even risk breaking so many incoming links?

    It's such a bad idea I would pay to stop it. I can kick in five figures. Where do I send the check?

    The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity.—Damian Conway
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      "Meta doesn't even look like CPAN."

      CPAN is not the front end here. CPAN is the collection of distributions in a central location. search.cpan.org is simply a method to access it. Besides, the most infrequent thing I do with CPAN is search it so the name is irrelevant to me. Also, I much prefer the look and feel of meta, and when someone enters a search link and I want to review the distribution, I manually review it on meta as opposed to clicking the link.

      "It's such a bad idea I would pay to stop it. I can kick in five figures. Where do I send the check?"

      Right here. for $99,999, I guarantee you that within a month I will have the whole thing re-created ;)

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      Have you considered actually raising these issues with the people who are in a position to do respond with authority? 301s will result in search engine index entries being updated, over time. The redirects will have been tested (you could do this yourself if you wanted), so I don't think breakage is going to be a problem.

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        Have you considered actually raising these issues with the people who are in a position to... respond with authority?

        People are very defensive about their bad ideas. I have lots of experience failing to convince them otherwise and have learned to spot and avoid those who are truly committed. I'm quite sure they would respond with all the reasons why I am wrong.

        Besides, there is much more to this situation than meets the eye, and I'm not inside so they won't listen and may not be able to: (from stackoverflow: Hm... seems here is some background "war" between Perl institute (owner of cpan.org) and Perl foundation (owner of metacpan.org).

        All the camels in my browser history and bookmarks are changing to four red dots. What do they mean? Hopefully meta can get legal permission to use the camel trademark for favicon!

        I don't think breakage is going to be a problem.

        It's already broken: redirects "fix" it. Some linux distro barfed recently on cpan being changed to mcpan... and it will get worse.

        perl -MO=Deparse -e "S U M E D O E P L R"
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