in reply to Re: The Future of Perl 5
in thread The Future of Perl 5

Thank you, Rolf, for your valuable comments.

IMHO, Curtis provided neither a strategy, nor tactics, but rather tried to offer a vision. He did not try to say: to get there, we need to do this and then that. He simply said: this is where we could be in ten years from now.

Having said that, I certainly agree with you that Perl needs a believable long term strategy.

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Re^3: The Future of Perl 5
by marto (Cardinal) on Aug 18, 2018 at 17:27 UTC

    "believable" or achievable? I heard an interesting idea late on Friday night at dinner that seemed really good.

      "believable" or achievable?
      Yes, I get your point. The part of the sentence with the word "believable", I copied it from LanX's post. Achievable is probably more important, but I guess the strategy has to be both credible and achievable.
      Fyi, from Ovid's talk, his three self-imposed requirements for the ideas he was willing to include regarding the future of P5:

      • Achievable
      • No magic
      • Must still look like Perl

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        The seeds of its death were sewn a long time ago; by it's original author. With malice aforethought.


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      > I heard an interesting idea late on Friday night at dinner that seemed really good.

      And where do I find the life stream? ;-)

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

        I've got some emails to send on various topics all related to discussions I had outside of the conference. Hopefully I can get someone to flesh out the idea, it was more of a concept that was suggested.

Re^3: The Future of Perl 5
by LanX (Saint) on Aug 18, 2018 at 19:25 UTC
    Please don't get me wrong I'm not criticizing Curtis.

    I'm glad he gave this talk.

    You asked where Perl 5 should be in 10 years, I tried to sketch an approach to find perspectives and ways ....

    Cheers Rolf (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice