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Re^4: The Future of Perl 5
by Laurent_R (Canon) on Aug 18, 2018 at 18:29 UTC
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"believable" or achievable?
Yes, I get your point. The part of the sentence with the word "believable", I copied it from LanX's post. Achievable is probably more important, but I guess the strategy has to be both credible and achievable.
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Re^4: The Future of Perl 5
by raiph (Deacon) on Aug 19, 2018 at 22:19 UTC
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Fyi, from Ovid's talk, his three self-imposed requirements for the ideas he was willing to include regarding the future of P5:
- Achievable
- No magic
- Must still look like Perl
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Two words: too & late. "Perl", pre-or-post-fixed by anything, is in the hospice. Not quite dead, but terminal and only ever leaving feet first.
The seeds of its death were sewn a long time ago; by it's original author. With malice aforethought.
With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
Suck that fhit
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We have a group of people doing bits of marketing for Perl and getting (small, but still) results from that, People like Mark Keating, Liz Mattijsen, Curtis Poe, and me. We have noticed a changing image of Perl at open source conferences: until 5 years ago, we often got biting remarks like "Perl is dead/dying" and "really, people still work with Perl?". We hardly ever get such remarks anymore. Maybe on acidic places like Reddit. It may even sound unbelievable to you, but nowadays we are even getting compliments because of the good things that happen with both Perl 5 and Perl 6 and the nice marketing stuff we hand out and the positive vibes that come out of all our volunteers at such conferences. Therefore it is frustrating and demotivational that it's mostly Perl-people who still make extremely negative remarks about Perl (5|6). If you love Perl so much, could you please try to make things better instead of worse? I don't see the use nor need to say such bad things to/about people who work hard to try to make Perl better, and give Perl a better name.
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Ah... always good to get some positive vibes. Too bad about the "it's" errors.
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Re^4: The Future of Perl 5
by LanX (Saint) on Aug 19, 2018 at 12:12 UTC
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