Re: Writing Popular Perl Software
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Oct 08, 2018 at 01:30 UTC
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This is fairly backward.
The world needs Perl to:
That’s what the world already knows Perl to do; where Perl shines. What would help Perl would be to take on things that are not already documented and coded in abundance.
More articles and code are always great. Focusing on the areas where ground is going to other languages would be far better.
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"Focusing on the areas where ground is going to other languages would be far better."
Any suggestions or ideas? I'm nearing year three of coding for the Raspberry Pi so Perl Hackers can have an alternative to Python, and have a few weeks before my new sensors and integrated circuits arrive for more of that fun. In the meantime, I'm looking for something to do instead of glaring at a screen aimlessly ;)
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Medical, AWS, GCP, Bitcoin, online trading, continuous integration, various testing… That said, you are completely on point already. :P
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It could have been written:
The world uses Perl to:
And mean the same thing, in English. Why does
the world "use" Perl for these things? Because they
"need" these things and therefore Perl. So give
them more of what they want and use and need!
There's no dichotomy between cultivating
the good and improving the less good. Perl has made itself essential to things like Debian, SQL and Google! Now
the Python people need vital tools written in Perl
that make their lives more bearable. Stuff like
this:
2007
pages.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/fincore/
2008
www.percona.com/blog/2008/03/18/the-tool-ive-been-waiting-for-years/
2018
medium.com/searce/how-max-prepared-stmt-count-bring-down-the-production-mysql-system-6ca28e577663
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It could have been written: "The world uses Perl to:" And mean the same thing, in English.
Not really, no. It's rather the opposite. Saying "X needs to Y" implies quite strongly that X does not currently do Y.
In search of a concrete, real-world example, I just ran a search on "the world needs to" and my first hit is an article headlined "the world needs to store billions of tons of carbon". The actual article is, unfortunately, paywalled, so I can't readily read the full content, but I can pretty much guarantee you that the article isn't talking about how wonderful it is that billions of tons of carbon are being stored successfully and effectively.
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Re: Writing Popular Perl Software
by zentara (Cardinal) on Oct 08, 2018 at 14:08 UTC
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The world needs Perl to:
1. Interact with SQL databases.
2. Work with Linux.
3. Do something (with, about, for, etc) Python.
4. Interact with MySQL databases.
5. Provide the Common Gateway Interface.
6. Match regular expressions.
7. Process each item in a list.
8. Expand through modules.
9. Download!
It sounds like you want a Perl version of a PhP based LAMP stack. Or something to compete with other Content Management Systems like Drupal or Wordpress. I think the Perl community decided a long time ago to NOT compete with PhP, because PhP was specifically designed for the Common Gateway Interface, making it unsuitable for the general purpose work which Perl excels at.
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> general purpose work which Perl excels at.
my point of view is that Perl is loosing against specialised competitors in various fields, because many consider the elements from other domains as "messy" at best.
This could probably be solved by specializing pragmas/bundles like use shell or use web
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It sounds like you want a Perl version of
It's not about me, it's about why google sends people
to perl.com: because they asked for something specific.
PHP is a Perl template engine gone rogue.
Free software communities should probably not ignore
challenges from less free software (or "free" software with
millions of dollars of venture capital behind it, like PHP).
Ignore all the marketing ploys now known as conventional
wisdom and give people what they need and want from Perl.
JUST DO IT!™
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Re: Writing Popular Perl Software
by Anonymous Monk on Oct 09, 2018 at 14:05 UTC
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Perl foreach loops
Sep 23, 2018 by brian d foy
www.perl.com/article/perl-foreach-loops/
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