in reply to new XML module

I am quite disappointed by many of my fellow monks after reading this node. One of the things that makes the Perl community (and especially the Monastery) so great is that it is very lighthearted, especially compared to the "competition", such as Microsoft products, Java, etc. I handed out many -- to the responses here because I was disgusted that something as simple as an april fools joke turned into an embarrassment to the Monastery (how the hell did this get frontpaged, anyways?).

This isn't something thats happened just at this node. I've noticed it happening more and more lately; I often see a proposal mocked and questions recieving very sarcastic responses with very little substance attached. Is that the kind of image that we want to project to new monks and the rest of the world? I certainly would not of stuck around here if my first question here had gotten such a response.

Here is an idea: if you don't have much positive & useful material to add, or simply think that a node is frivilous, how about shutting the F*** up instead of acting like an asshole? It would be much appreciated.

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Re: Re: new XML module
by Juerd (Abbot) on Apr 02, 2002 at 22:18 UTC

    Here is an idea: if you don't have much positive & useful material to add, or simply think that a node is frivilous

    Yeah, I guess no-one actually cares about CPAN pollution. It's just us CPAN purists who think bogus modules should not be in the XML:: namespace. We should not complain.

    jryan, CPAN is an important Perl community service. Bad beta modules are welcome, humor is welcome. But a joke module should not be under a serious namespace, and the joke should be made much more obvious to those who don't know the phenomenon called "April fools day".

    If this module was called Acme::XML::Simpler, I wouldn't have complained. 

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      My gripe, Juerd, is that I that when I see childish responses such as these:

      I too am excited , I can't believe grantm's selfishness (CPAN is not a crap factory).
      Man oh man am I excited, so much so that I am going to write to grantm, and tell everybody I know to avoid his CPAN directory.
      can any fool add his own favourite Foo::Bar::Broken?
      Have you seen my latest module? **mocking code**

      that I very much wanted to never bother coming back here, as this kind of thing happens all the time. Its not like grantm is an stupid beginnier, his XML::Simple module seems to be quite popular. Even if he was, he most certainly did not deserve to be treated as such. I never said that you weren't allowed to voice complaints on his actions, but perhaps it could have been voiced a little better?

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        can any fool add his own favourite Foo::Bar::Broken?

        That was a related question, but "any fool" is not an alias for grantm, and "Foo::Bar::Broken" is not an alias for XML::Simpler. I'm ashamed one of my favourite sites lacks even the simplest layer of quality control.

        Have you seen my latest module? **mocking code**

        That was supposed to be a joke. Just like XML::Simpler, it turned out to be a bad one. It is however a good example of code that does exactly what is documented, and I couldn't have written my reply without this visualisation.

        Its not like grantm is an stupid beginnier, his XML::Simple module seems to be quite popular.

        I quite like XML::Simple. I hate XML::Simpler, though (mostly because of it's serious-looking name).

        As for crazyinsomniac's reaction, of course I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'd like to add that I was about to write something similar - that's what people do when they're very upset. 

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